Set I
Sheep, Pigs On The Wing 1, Dogs, Pigs On The Wing 2, Pigs (Three Different Ones)*
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Shine On You Crazy Diamond I-V, Welcome To The Machine, Have A Cigar, Wish You Were Here, Shine On You Crazy Diamond VI-IX, E: Money
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Bleating and Babbling
Oude Ahoy-Hallen, Rotterdam (2nd night)
Source: recorder one, complete and unprocessed
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Identification: Roger shouts 11 after the 2nd verse of P3DO
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Here is what I've done to the sources:
REC2-
° channels rebalanced;
° Equalisation permitted to make the vocals and guitar a little bit clearer and to reduce considerably the hiss;
° The most obvious short volume fluctuations have been mastered, longer parts of lower and higher volume (especially during 'Dogs') have been left as they were in order to not denaturate the tape recording;
° some pops, noises, clipping and anomalies were removed.
Alas, tape warbles and some analogue crackle is impossible to remove without leaving a scar. Especially the tape anomalies at the end of rec2 were difficult to attenuate, but I wanted to leave as much possible of this source, until the tape completely lost it. The only thing you miss is constant warble for 2 more minutes until the source cuts.
Patch from REC1-
° Speedcorrected (96.5%);
° Channels rebalanced;
° Equalisation made vocals clearer, drum less 'boosted' and the overall less noisy and dull and reduced a lot of hiss;
° Volume has been tweaked to fit with the volume of the main source.
The overall volume is quite low at times, though the loudest parts are close to saturation ... you might feel the need to raise the volume a little below clipping point for burning to CD-R.
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Name: 1st gen rec2
Format: audio
Discs: 2
Recording: audience / Recorder 2
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Lineage: cass[1]>cdr[?]>EAC>wav>flac
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Length: 99:41
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Added to the database by Furry_Animal
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Track List Times Recorder Notes Lyrics
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Review: 1st gen rec2
Got this as audio cd transfered from a first gen tape which my source received directly from the taper, who is a Dutch not especially fan of PF but who tapes all the gigs he goes to :-) Exactly the very same source as described by Sheep hereunder.
(from Littlesheep's site)
source: audience - recorder 2 / cass[1]>cdr[?] >EAC>WAV>archived in shn
tot length: 99:41
overall: VG
CD1
01. Sheep [11:35]
02. Pigs On The Wing Part 1 [1:33]
03. Dogs [17:32]
04. Pigs On The Wing Part 2 [2:23]
05. Pigs (Three Different Ones) [17:36] CD2
01. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V) [14:14]
02. Welcome To The Machine [7:49]
03. Have A Cigar [5:47]
04. Wish You Were Here [4:55]
05. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts VI-IX) [7:22] - cut
06. Money [8:51]
notes:
alternate recorder of the second night in Rotterdam, directly from an analog copy of the master.
there are volumes fluctuations and some anomalies here and there; not worthy an EX for sure , but there's no doubt, it's a very nice upgrade to the versions from the first recorder circulating.
this recorder is not complete, it is missing a great part of SOYCD (6-9) evidently because of problems with the recorder, the last minute available here is full of distortions indeed, then the recorder stops.
Waters "sneers" 11 on Pigs (3DO) verse 2 at 4:38
-Furry_Animal
last edited - 2004-12-09 : orig entered - 2004-12-09
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Name: Bleating And Babbling
Format: shn
Discs: 2
Recording: audience / Recorder 1
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Lineage: cass[low]>cdr[?]
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Length: 111:44 Mins
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Roio Rating:
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Rate This RoioA+AA-B+BB-C+CC-D+DD-E+EE-F+FF-
Added to the database by Furry_Animal
on 2006-11-04
Track List Times Recorder Notes Lyrics
a01 Sheep 11:35 1
a02 Pigs On The Wing (part 1) 1:53 1
a03 Dogs 16:19 1
a04 Pigs On The Wing (part 2) 2:17 1
a05 Pigs (Three Different Ones) 18:11 1
b01 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts I - V) 13:55 1
b02 Welcome To The Machine 8:09 1
b03 Have A Cigar 5:14 1
b04 Wish You Were Here 6:10 1
b05 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts VI - IX) 17:58 1
e01 Money 10:03 1
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Review: Bleating And Babbling
Pink Floyd
Bleating and Babbling
1977-02-18
Second night at Ahoy, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Source: recorder one, complete and unprocessed
Lineage unknown
Identification: Roger shouts 11 after the 2nd verse of P3DO
SQ: VG-
DISC ONE
01 Sheep 11.35
02 Pigs On The Wing (part 1) 01.53
03 Dogs (cut near the and "who was...") 16.19
04 Pigs On The Wing (part 2) 02.17
05 Pigs (Three Different Ones) 18.11
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50.15
DISC TWO
01 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts I - V) 13.55
02 Welcome To The Machine 08.09
03 Have A Cigar 05.14
04 Wish You Were Here 06.10
05 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts VI - IX) 17.58
06 Money 10.03
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61.29
TOTAL LENGHT: 111.44
When I received this RoIO for trade , I was expecting to get the most common source for this show, that is recorder 1, missing "Have A Cigar" and "Wish You Were Here" and featuring NR. But - big surprise - this one appeared to be complete. There was no info. txt with this and the coverart provided no further information. Moreover this RoIO title wasn't to be found in any of the well-known RoIO databases. To make a long story short, my first thought was that this was sourced from REC2, on the only assumption that REC2 was complete. But after verification, I saw that SOYCD6-9 from REC2 was cut at about 6 min, and not mine. After listening the whole show with headphones, I only could detect cuts between songs (most probably tune-ups and audience noise), but no patch nor other source, the background noise was always the same. No doubt was possible about the date though, thanks to Mr Water's "number game" and an audible "11" shouted at 6:00 into P3DO (after the second verse). Could it be an unknown REC3 then?
Here I have to thank littlesheep for taking the time to compare the two sources previous with this one. The result was quite amazing: it was a new source indeed, but from REC1 - unprocessed and even more complete than REC2! A big upgrade in SQ and completeness for the previous circulating RoIO's from REC1!
Enjoy! - Furry Animal [email protected]
last edited - 2005-01-01 : orig entered - 2005-01-01
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Name: In De Weiden (In The Grassland)
Format: flac
Discs: 2
Recording: aud rec 2
Release: FA006
Lineage: A2 cass[1] < CD-R[2] < EAC < WAV < Cool Edit Pro v2.1 (remaster) < FLAC
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Length: 109:31
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Track List Times Recorder Notes Lyrics
a01 Sheep 11:35
a02 Pigs On The Wing (part 1) 1:47
a03 Dogs 17:17
a04 Pigs On The Wing (part 2) 2:23
a05 Pigs (Three Different Ones) 17:36
b01 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts I - V) 14:14
b02 Welcome To The Machine 7:49
b03 Have A Cigar 5:47
b04 Wish You Were Here 4:46
b05 Shine On, You Crazy Diamond 6 6:28
b06 Shine On, You Crazy Diamond 7-9 11:02
b07 Money 8:43
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Review: In De Weiden (In The Grassland)
PINK FLOYD
IN DE WEIDEN
FA006
Recorded live on February 18th, 1977 in
De Oude Ahoy Hallen, Rotterdam, The Netherlands
Lineage: A2 cass[1] < CD-R[2] <
A1 cass[low] < CD-R[?] <
EAC < WAV < Cool Edit Pro v2.1 (remaster) < FLAC (level 8 ; align on sector boundaries)
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DISC 1 [50:39]
01. Sheep [11:35]
02. Pigs On A Wing 1 [1:47]
03. Dogs [17:17]
04. Pigs On A Wing 2 [2:23]
05. Pigs (3 different ones) [17:36]
DISC2 [58:51]
06. Shine On, You Crazy Diamond 1-5 [14:14]
07. Welcome To The Machine [7:49]
08. Have A Cigar [5:47]
09. Wish You Were Here [4:46]
10. Shine On, You Crazy Diamond 6 [6:28]
11. Shine On, You Crazy Diamond 7-9 [11:02] *
12. ENCORE: Money [8:43]
TOTAL PLAYING TIME [109:31]
* Patched from different recording of the same night.
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After having seeded "Bleating and babbling" a couple of months ago, which is the complete and untouched version of the other recorder for this same night, I finally found a copy of the second recorder. My source is a first gen tape which came from the taper himself, a man from Eindhoven who isn't a Pink Floyd fan in particular but who has taped all their shows in the Netherlands since that night nonetheless! This tape has been transferred on CD-R and I received an exact copy of this CD-R.
This recording sounds much clearer and less noisy than "B&B", although this taper obviously was more distant to the stage than rec1. But this recording had more anomalies, like volume fluctuations and crackle. The recording stops during SOYCD, obviously because of problems with the recorder (bad cassette I guess). Then the source starts again right for the beginning of the encore 'Money'.
To fill the gap, that is SOYCD7-9 and audience noise until the first cash register effects, I used a patch from "B&B". This patch has been indexed separately.
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Show identifyer:
° Mr. Waters sneers '11' at 4:38 into 'Pigs3DO' after the second verse, not the third this time.
° Just like on the first night of the tour in Dortmund (23 Jan), the mono effect tape at the end of 'HAC' doesn't start on time, so the song ends abruptly.
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Here is what I've done to the sources: REC2-
° channels rebalanced;
° Equalisation permitted to make the vocals and guitar a little bit clearer and to reduce considerably the hiss;
° The most obvious short volume fluctuations have been mastered, longer parts of lower and higer volume (especially during 'Dogs') have been left as they were in order to not denaturate the tape recording;
° some pops, noises, clipping and anomalies were removed.
Alas, tape warbles and some analog crackle is impossible to remove without leaving a scar. Especially the tape anomalies at the end of rec2 were difficult to attenuate, but I wanted to leave as much possible of this source, until the tape completely lost it. The only thing you miss is constant warble for 2 more minutes until the source cuts.
Patch from REC1-
° Speedcorrected (96.5%);
° Channels rebalanced;
° Equalisation made vocals clearer, drum less 'boosted' and the overall less noisy and dull and reduced a lot of hiss;
° Volume has been tweaked to fit with the volume of the main source.
The overall volume is quite low at times, though the loudest parts are close to saturation... You might feel the need to raise the volume a little below clipping point for burning to CD-R.
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Many many thanks to Jemig de Pemig for the source!
Thanks also to the people who gave me advice for this first 'remaster' attempt.
[email protected]
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