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User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
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Jim Bennett (5/5) | SHN / 2 | View | 2014 | |||
Gavin (5/5) | cdr / 3 | View | ||||
Mark (5/4.9) | CDR / 2 | A | View | |||
Notes: | This show is missing: Bertha-> Good Lovin', Ship of Fools, Samson & Delilah (The complete show is 3 cds and I only have two). | |||||
Damon (5/5) | CDR / 3 | View | 28846 | |||
Garrett in Ohio (5/5) | / 0 | View | 4974 | |||
Rudolf E. Zielinski (5/5) | CDR / 3 | A+ | View | SBD, 1st 4 songs in 2nd set AUD | ||
ted1079 (5/5) | CD / 3 | View | 4974 | |||
Jay (5/5) | CD / 2 | all | A | View | SBD | |
Matt Beutler (5/0) | CD-R / 3 | View | 2014 | |||
Notes: | needs a full listening | |||||
garret (5/0) | Flac / 21 | A+ | A+ | View | 28846 | SBD: (shn ID 4974) sbd>??>cd>eac>shn / AUD: (shn ID 2014) Audience FOB Sony TC-640... |
Notes: | SBD: (shn ID 4974) sbd>??>cd>eac>shn AUD: (shn ID 2014) Audience FOB Sony TC-640 reel to reel > TCD-D8 Transfer: TCD-D8 > Delta DiO 2496 > Samplitude 2496 > CDWAV > SHNv3 Disc 2: (shn ID 4974) Source: Audience FOB Sony TC-640 reel to reel > TCD-D8 Transfer: TCD-D8 > Delta DiO 2496 > Samplitude 2496 > CDWAV > SHNv3 >mkw>wav>mkw appended w/seek files>shn [complete text files for each source appended at end] Transfer/Editing: All sources were snh files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC Frontend > FLAC 16 (level 8) Matrixed by Chris Chappell [email protected] 4/01/05 Total Times: Disc 1 [60:57] Disc 2 [27:35] Disc 3 [75:04] General Notes: Given the two sources available on the Llama, I decided to put the effort into editing a matrix of all this incredible night in Eugene. The FOB AUD is a decent recording for '78 and the SBD is balanced with everyone in the mix. The two together work well as the energy in "The Pit" is palpable in this matrix. Unfortunately, no SBD circulates for the 4 songs that comprise disc 2, but the rest is epic, especially the Jerry mutron solo where he references the Close Encounters theme, shortly after the movie came out. Editing Notes: - Pitch Both sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest, and the AUD being the flatest. I used the SBD as my master timeline and pitch referenced the AUD to it. The AUD on average had to be pitched up about .06 (6 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being 100 cents which is a semitone. I did not reference A=440 as I did not desire to pitch adjust the SBD. It is very close though to A=440. - Synch Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many edits to list). - Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio The only dynamic processing I employed was a little EQ to the SBD source. One difference was that I noticed NR had been applied to disc 1 but not to disc 3. For Disc 1 I added about 1dB at 2.5kHz to get back some of which was lost from the previous NR. Both Disc 1 and 3 had a small shelf (less than 1dB) starting at about 170 Hz. All I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD by using the ambience of the AUD. The result is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between 3:1 and 4:1. - Edits The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. SBD: d1t01 (5:50 - 6:07) - missing (crowd) d1t04 (7:10 - 7:13) - missing (crowd) d1t05 (4:44 - 4:56) - missing (crowd) d1t06 (2:06:00 - 2:06:08) - missing d1t08 (10:02 - 10:10) - missing (crowd) d3t01 (4:24 - 4:25) - splice from another show d3t05 (6:56 - 7:27) - splice from another show d2t06 (2:50:05 - 2:50:17) - missing d3t07 (8:05 - 8:21) - missing (crowd) d3t08 (5:17 - 5:42) - missing (crowd) AUD: d1t01 (5:26 - 5:32) - missing (crowd) d1t02 (4:03 - 4:05) - missing (crowd) Note that alot of the missing elements from the SBD source are just crowd segments except for a few minor dropouts, as well as very stealth splicing in two spots on disc 3, the most noticeable being 31 seconds at the end of St. Stephen. I decided to leave the splices (from another show in the same time period (probably 1-11-78) because I was able to match them up with the AUD source without too much problem since it was during a verse, thus maintaining a SBD source in the mix during these points. This might seem objectionable to some, but since we are used to these splices, I felt that the difference in content is negligable, and it was better to have a SBD source in these parts than just the AUD. Other than that, all of the music is intact. Thanks to Popi for seeding the SBD. Thanks to John D'Auria for the transfer to DAT and SHN of the AUD. Thanks to Jonathan Aizen for uploading both sources to the Llama. Enjoy!!! -Chappy ---- Discs 1 & 3 came to me as audio discs and was I was told that it was a snbd that did not come through internet circulation. While I have not heard the other sbd that is in circulation http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=287 )it is also missing said tracks and has a cassette gen. My ears aren't quite what they used to be but I don't believe that this seed is encumbered with that cass gen. I also have the entire show that circulates in an audience recording nly.( http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2014 ) which is pretty good quality(not the punch that this sbd has by any means). So what I am gonna do is upload this gem and add from the aud seed the missing tracks. Unless somebody has better source material for the aud tracks(Jay Serrafin) I will proceed when the upload directory is in proper working order( Mike) and no longer times out and cancels every track I try to upload. Meanwhile I got it and whomever desires this gem may email me [email protected] and I will be glad to run you off a copy. popi | |||||
jackstraw (5/0) | cd / 3 | View | 28846 | sbd | ||
john (5/5) | / 2 | View | 4974 | d1,d3: sbd> ??> cd> eac> shn, d2 from previous shn set | ||
barry bryson (5/4.3) | cd / 2 | View | aud | |||
Notes: | missing 4 songs they are on the cassette i have | |||||
Ryan (5/5) | flac/cdr / 3 | View | SBD: (shn ID 4974) sbd>??>cd>eac>shn, AUD: (shn ID 2014) Audience FOB Sony TC-640... | |||
Dan McDonald (5/5) | / 2 | A- | View | MR>DAT>CDR | ||
Notes: | MR>C>DAT>CDR | |||||
Adam Lawler (5/0) | .shn / 2 | View | 4974 | SBD | ||
MattMan_audio (5/0) | SHN / 2 | View | 2014 | Audience FOB Sony TC-640 reel to reel > TCD-D8 | ||
Andrew Murawa (5/5) | cd / 2 | A | View | SBD | ||
Notes: | missing Bertha through Samson | |||||
Andrew Murawa (5/5) | cd / 3 | A | View | Disc 1&3 SBD>?>CD>EAC>SHN, Disc 2 AUD FOB Sony TC-640 r2r>TCD-D8 | ||
chris (5/0) | CD-R / 3 | View | ||||
Matt Bertollo (5/5) | CDR / 3 | SBD | View | 4974 | Discs1 & 3: sbd>??>cd>eac>shnDisc 2: Source: Audience FOB Sony TC-640 reel to reel... | |
Notes: | 3 Audio or 2 SHN 'Close Encounters Jam' | |||||
Bouwser (5/5) | Cassette / 1 | A | View | SBD | ||
Notes: | Set II | |||||
RamblinRose (5/5) | CD-R / 3 | View | MASTER REELS > CASS > DAT > CDR | |||
Cappy (5/0) | CDR / 2 | A | View | 4974 | ||
Notes: | Missing disc 2 | |||||
Jeff Lambert (5/4) | / 2 | sbd | View | soundboard | ||
Chris Shumate (5/0) | CD-R / 3 | View | ||||
Notes: | Close Encounters Space | |||||
Reverend Alex Lagusis (5/0) | / 3 | View | 28846 | |||
David D (5/0) | SHN / 2 | View | 4974 | FOB Sony TC-640 reel to reel > TCD-D8 | ||
Notes: | Spindle 2D | |||||
Rick Ford (5/5) | cdr / 2 | A+ | A+ | View | ||
Sean McIntyre (5/0) | CD / 3 | View | SBD | |||
Notes: | Set 1-SBD?->Cassette->PCM->Sound Forge->CDR Set2-SBD?->Reel->"an old reel"->PCM->Sound Forge->CDR Set 2 Bertha->Samson FOB AKG 224's->Sony TC-158->PVM->DAT->CDR |