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Grateful Dead 08/27/72
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds, Veneta, OR
Set I
Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha
Set II
Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told
Set III
Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night
Comment
Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS
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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy
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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)
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User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Tony Baldino (4/0) / 4 A A View   SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN
Melissa Agar (4/0) CD / 4 View  
Kyle Milne (4/0) / 0 A A- View   VHS Pro
Notes: SUNSHINE DAYDREAM/TRACKS PLAYIN,PROMISED,CHINA>RIDER,JACKSTRAW,DARKSTAR>EL PASO,GREATEST STORY/LOTS OF OTHER FOOTAGE
Pat Bailey (4/0) CDR / 3 A A View  
Tod Gordon (4/5) / 3 A View  
Zack Rasmussen (4/5) CD-R / 3 A View  
Karl Hungus (4/0) AUD / 3 View 2199 Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC
Metersman (4/0) SHN / 0 View  
Joe (4/0) CD-R / 3 View 4682 SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Zach Deuel (4/0) shn / 2 View   Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN
Notes: Grateful Dead 08/27/72 Old Renaissance Fairground Veneta, OR Source: SBD Lineage: Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens Thanks to Jeff Tiedrich and David Hollister for this fine copy! Extraction and shortening by G.S. Hamilton http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2199 Disc 1 Set 1 1. Stage Announcements 05:58 2. The Promised Land 03:37 3. Sugaree 09:16 4. Me And My Uncle 03:27 5. Deal 06:00 6. Black Throated Wind 09:25 7. China Cat Sunflower 07:55 8. I Know You Rider 08:30 9. Mexicali Blues 04:25 10. Bertha 05:52 Total time: 64:30 Disc 2 Set 2 1. Stage Announcements 02:40 2. Playing In The Band 21:21 3. He's Gone 12:08 4. Jack Straw 06:00 5. Bird Song 13:37 6. Greatest Story Ever Told 05:56 Total time: 61:45 Disc 3 Set 3 1. Dark Star > 31:42 2. El Paso 04:49 3. Sing Me Back Home 13:02 4. Sugar Magnolia 11:42 Encores: 5. Casey Jones 07:00 6. One More Saturday Night 04:37 7. Stage Announcements 03:00 Total time: 75:55 David Hollister's comments: Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens. Disc 3 is an 80 minute disc, but it can fit on a 74 if you want to leave off the post-show chatter. I cleaned up pops during Dark Star with SF pencil tool. There are still a couple of very small spots of what sounds like static during Dark Star, usually only in one channel. I didn't feel they were worth bothering with. Small clicks at 25:34, 26:35 in Dark Star. Lots of small zits and stuff all over the place, presumably from the PCM tape.
Karl Hungus (4/0) SHN / 2 View 4682
Notes: dankseeds; a little better sound, in-between song banter cut
Mark (4/0) cdr / 3 A B+ View   sdbd>cass>dat>cdr
lenny k (4/0) CD / 3 View  
Dan Javel (4/0) / 0 View   S:R
evan hammond (4/0) cdr / 3 A A- View   sbd
Peter Roller (4/0) CDR / 3 A+ A+ View 4682
neil speer (4/0) CDR / 3 A View   SB
Notes: Analog Cassette>Cool Edit Pro>CDR
Brian Hite (4/5) incoming / 3 View  
Reed (4/0) SHN / 3 View   Source: SBD - Lineage: Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN
Jim (4/0) CD-R/WAV / 3 View  
mike serafin (4/0) CD-R / 2 A A View  
Notes: not complete
erick (4/0) cdr / 3 View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DATx2>WAV>SHN>CDR
Brian Galante (4/0) CD-R / 3 View  
mike serafin (4/0) CD-R / 3 A A View  
Jim Walton (4/4.7) 2x74,80cdr / 3 View   SBD
Notes: Insane Betty Board!
chucktcounceller (4/0) CDR / 3 View   SBD >MR>DAT>Sonic Solutions>CD>EAC>CDR BETTYBOARD
Mark Hegg (4/4.5) CDR / 3 View  
Notes: *Disc 1, track 7: starts popping and skipping from around 2:30 to 5:20.
Wesley Best (4/5) CD / 3 A+ A View  
Chris (4/0) shn / 2 A View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes: Grateful Dead August 27, 1972 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds Veneta, OR Benefit for Springfield Creamery Disc 1 47:55 -Set I- 1. Promised Land 03:06 2. Sugaree 07:13 3. Me & My Uncle 03:04 4. Deal 04:41 5. Black Throated Wind 06:31 6. China Cat Sunflower> 07:56 7. I Know You Rider 06:02 8. Mexicali Blues 03:35 9. Bertha 05:44 Disc 2 50:18 -Set II- 1. Playin 18:40 2. He's Gone 08:49 3. Jack Straw 04:59 4. Bird Song 12:19 5. Greatest Story 05:33 Disc 3 65:57 -Set III- 1. Dark Star> 31:26 2. El Paso 04:39 3. Sing Me Back Home 10:29 4. Sugar Magnolia 08:33 5. E1: Casey Jones 06:08 6. E2: Saturday Night 04:41 Source: SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f (see error logs below) WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very tightly, almost no banter is present in this version. Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source. The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge (small bits of analog static removed): d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone: d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel d1t01, 2:26 slight pop d1t07, 3:48 click d2t01, 6:00 faint click d2t04, 10:12 pop d2t05, 3:36 click d2t05, 3:42 click d3t01, 28:24 click d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001 DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001 ------------------------ DAT transfer error logs: ------------------------ each of the two source dats were extracted twice and compared using EAC's wav compare feature DAT1: wav 1: 117 missing samples 0:27:21.540 wav 2: 0:00:00.003 longer (wav 2 used for this shn archive, extraneous samples at 27:21.540 deleted, not audible) DAT2: wav 1: 363 missing samples 0:58:45.741 wav 2: 363 missing samples 0:30:15.591 (wav 1 used for this shn archive, questionable spot at 58:45 was checked, no audible errors exist) ----------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ *Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03* and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd72-08-27/ Listening test performed by *5* danksters positive criteria met: Tracking- OK Seamless and complete- OK Lineage listed- OK negative criteria met: DAE- NO Resampled- NO Diginoise- NO ___________________________________________________________________________
Ryan and Ollie (4/4.3) AUDIO / 3 A A View 152 SBD