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Grateful Dead 08/27/72
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds, Veneta, OR
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Set I
Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha
Set II
Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told
Set III
Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night
Comment
Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS
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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy
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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)
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Jeffery Bowling (4/0) CD-R / 3 A View   SBD
Notes: Source: SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f (see error logs below) WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very tightly, almost no banter is present in this version. Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source. The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge (small bits of analog static removed): d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone: d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel d1t01, 2:26 slight pop d1t07, 3:48 click d2t01, 6:00 faint click d2t04, 10:12 pop d2t05, 3:36 click d2t05, 3:42 click d3t01, 28:24 click d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001 DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001 ------------------------ DAT transfer error logs: ------------------------ each of the two source dats were extracted twice and compared using EAC's wav compare feature DAT1: wav 1: 117 missing samples 0:27:21.540 wav 2: 0:00:00.003 longer (wav 2 used for this shn archive, extraneous samples at 27:21.540 deleted, not audible) DAT2: wav 1: 363 missing samples 0:58:45.741 wav 2: 363 missing samples 0:30:15.591 (wav 1 used for this shn archive, questionable spot at 58:45 was checked, no audible errors exist) ----------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ *Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03* and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd72-08-27/ Listening test performed by *5* danksters positive criteria met: Tracking- OK Seamless and complete- OK Lineage listed- OK negative criteria met: DAE- NO Resampled- NO Diginoise- NO ________________
travis viars (4/0) CD / 3 View   SBD
Jen (4/0) CDR / 3 A View  
Jen (4/0) CDR / 3 A View  
Jen (4/0) CDR / 3 A View  
kb panic (3/5) / 3 B View   SBD
Notes: "Field Trip"
J. Carter (3/0) DAT / 2 A B+ View  
J. Carter (3/0) DVD / 1 A A View   "Sunshine Daydream" film
Notes: Soundboard audio overdubbed.
mike toda (3/5) cd-r / 3 a View  
Gene Rider (3/0) shn / 2 View  
Gene Rider (3/0) WMA / 3 View 3328
Notes: Lineage: SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents) David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: This is *not* the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently. Footnotes: * First 57 seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Gans) @ At about 6:50 two seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Orf) $ Piano distortion starting at 5:05 is on original reel (somewhat cleaned up by Orf) & Stage Announcements can be eliminated to fit disc 3 on a 74 min CD-R General Comments: In all the circulating copies of this show I've heard, including this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member's instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them) with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart enough to find and fix these particular pops. I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin'. I determined by using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil's A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by "tuning" (speeding up) the new source, everything sounds "right" and the transition from the Betty source into this source in Playin' no longer had that audible speed slowdown. I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except the first 57 seconds of Playin') which effectively "played the original reel a little faster". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were shorter). I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix. Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds "clearer"; there is a better defined high end which leads to a less "veiled" sound than the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds more "veiled" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it's hiss only from the original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating. Enjoy, and feel free to send comments my way. Thanks again to David Gans and Adam Jerugim for making this possible. Leigh Orf http://orf.cx written March 10, 2001
Jeff Hyman (3/5) cdr / 3 View   SBD
Jeff Hyman (3/5) mpeg / 2 A View   Pro shot
Notes: "Sunshine Daydream"
Jeff Hyman (3/5) dvd / 1 A View   proshot
Notes: "Sunshine Daydream"
Jeff Hyman (3/5) dvd / 1 A View   proshot
Notes: "Sunshine Daydream," expanded; Goodbear Home Grown Project; includes full set list; audio:Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source(shnid 21619);stills/Goodbear provide video for tracks not in original movie.
Bill d'Angelo (3/5) CDR/shn / 3 A View 2199
Dave Heenan (3/0) SHN / 2 View 4682 SBD->16 Track MR->[email protected]>DAT->DAT->WAV->SHN
timmy b (3/5) cdr / 3 View 16582
john zicconi (3/5) CDR & FLAC / 3 SBD View   CDR: SBD Betty Board FLAC: SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes: Betty Board
Carl (3/0) DVD+R / 1 View   See notes
Notes: Video Unknown Standalone source > DVD Decrypter > Sony Vega 7.0 (original bitrate was 9600 with AC3 audio) rendered to 8400 bitrate to allow for audio upgrade. Per Awolfeoutwest about the re-encoding "And, I have to say, even though I am a stickler when it comes to re-encoding MPEG2, that the Bertha audio in your version makes it the better version in my opinion. The added softness in the re-encoded video is not at all apparent, but the sound upgrade is striking and crucial. In a blind "taste" test, I would choose your resync in a heartbeat. Very nice!" My own views are that the original AC3 audio was a bit over-recorded - when comparing side by side - the Bertha is much fuller, better stereo seperation and just sounds better at higher volumes. Audio: Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. (shnid 21619) SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels) Digitally remastered using a custom built, Dual-DAW, nicknamed Bertha, by [email protected] on January 4, 2004. Thanks to Peter Braverman for his fine work. From the Braverman text file and prior to Bertha Remastering: Source: SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b Notes -Video assets courtesy of Lone Star Dead. -SBD audio courtesy of the Wheel -Audio synchronization by Kevin Tobin using Adobe Audition to compress/expand the audio in multitrack mode to match the original audio. -Multiplexing via TMPGEnc MPEG Editor by Kevin Tobin. -DVD authoring via DVD Architect 3 by Kevin Tobin. -MD5 checksums files are now being placed in the disk folders to support multiplatform use. Please remove before burning VOB files to dvd disk. - I did not add any extra footage like I did on my first update (namely the last 2 minutes of Playin' In The Band) - the original video is all I used. Audio\Video Flaws: 1) For first 4 minutes 50.839 seconds of video used the video soundtrack as no matching soundtrack is available. 2) All vocals\talking during the Playin in the Band segment were mixed in from the video soundtrack. 3) Between Playin and Promised Land, video soundtrack was used as no matching audio from soundboard. 4) Between Promised Land and China Cat Sunflower, video soundtrack was used as no matching audio from soundboard. 5) Between I Know You Rider and Jack Straw, video soundtrack was used as no matching audio from soundboard. 6) Between Jack Straw and Dark Star, video soundtrack was used as no matching audio from soundboard. 7) Between El Paso and Greatest Story, video soundtrack was used as no matching audio from soundboard. Video Attribute : Video compression mode : MPEG-2 TV system : 525/60 (NTSC) Aspect Ratio : 4:3 Display Mode : reserved Source picture resolution : 720x480 (525/60) Frame Rate : 29.97 Source picture letterboxed : Not letterboxed Bitrate : Disk 1 8.400 Mbps Disk 2 8.400 Mbps Menu : Yes (song list on separate menu) Audio Attribute : Number of Audio channels : 2 Number of Audio streams : 1 Audio Coding mode: Linear PCM audio Sampling Rate : 48kHz 1536Kbps Brokedown House Productions Do NOT Buy or Sell this video
Carl (3/0) CD-R / 3 View 21619 SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA...
Donnie Howard (3/0) CD-R / 3 SBD View  
Notes: SBD
Boisedeadhead (3/0) CDR / 3 View  
Marty (3/4.9) DVD / 1 View  
Notes: Sunshine Daydream video
Scott Gesler (3/5) CD / 3 A A View  
joe m (3/5) shn / 2 View 16582
joe m (3/5) VIDEO / 2 View   [b][size=5][color=blue]Grateful Dead[/color] [color=red]Sunshine Daydream[/color] Canis Major...
ivan (3/5) CDR / 3 View   SBD
Kevin Tobin Videos (3/5) DVD / 1 View 21619 Pro-shot w/sbd upgrade
Notes: Film by John Norris, Sam Field, and Phil DeGuere. *Audio upgrade with Bertha remaster by Brokedown Home Production - seeded on JP 8/9/06 Seeded on LL 12/24/06 no longer have copy LL Seeding
Kevin Tobin Videos (3/5) DVD9 / 1 View 21619 Pro-shot w/sbd upgrade
Notes: Brokedown House Production using video from Lonestardead - upgraded video with additional footage. DVD9 version seeded at LL on 10/20/09 LL Seeding