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Grateful Dead 08/27/72
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds, Veneta, OR
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Set I
Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha
Set II
Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told
Set III
Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night
Comment
Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS
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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy
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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)
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User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Brett Haney (2/0) AUD CDR / 3 View 4682
Notes: Audio only, no shn
Jon Freed (2/0) shn / 3 View 3328
Jon Freed (2/0) shn / 3 View 4682
Kat (2/0) / 3 View  
Rob Harrison (2/5) DAT / 2 View   SBD
Notes: All sets. Soundboard>Unknown media,Soundboard>Unknown media blurb Rider, beg. Playin cut
Tim Higgins (2/5) cdr / 3 A+ A+ View   Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source
Notes: Full source under tech notes
David Freed (2/0) SHN / 2 View  
scott falls (2/0) SHN / 2 A View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DATWAV>SHN
Kevin Gallagher (2/0) CD / 3 A A View   SBD->two-track MR->DAT
Notes: SBD (SSDD film version)
EMSheldon (2/0) CD-R / 3 A-/ View  
Notes: Promised Land Sugaree Me and My Uncle Deal Black Throated Wind China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Mexicali Blues Bertha Playing in the Band He's Gone Jack Straw Bird Song Greatest Story Ever Told Dark Star El Paso Sing Me Back Home Sugar Magnolla Casey Jones
EMSheldon (2/0) SHN / 2 View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes: Benefit for Springfield Creamery Disc 1 47:55 -Set I- 1. Promised Land 03:06 2. Sugaree 07:13 3. Me & My Uncle 03:04 4. Deal 04:41 5. Black Throated Wind 06:31 6. China Cat Sunflower> 07:56 7. I Know You Rider 06:02 8. Mexicali Blues 03:35 9. Bertha 05:44 Disc 2 50:18 -Set II- 1. Playin 18:40 2. He's Gone 08:49 3. Jack Straw 04:59 4. Bird Song 12:19 5. Greatest Story 05:33 Disc 3 65:57 -Set III- 1. Dark Star> 31:26 2. El Paso 04:39 3. Sing Me Back Home 10:29 4. Sugar Magnolia 08:33 5. E1: Casey Jones 06:08 6. E2: Saturday Night 04:41 WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very tightly, almost no banter is present in this version. Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source. The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge (small bits of analog static removed): d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone: d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel d1t01, 2:26 slight pop d1t07, 3:48 click d2t01, 6:00 faint click d2t04, 10:12 pop d2t05, 3:36 click d2t05, 3:42 click d3t01, 28:24 click d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001 DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001 ------------------------ DAT transfer error logs: ------------------------ each of the two source dats were extracted twice and compared using EAC's wav compare feature DAT1: wav 1: 117 missing samples 0:27:21.540 wav 2: 0:00:00.003 longer (wav 2 used for this shn archive, extraneous samples at 27:21.540 deleted, not audible) DAT2: wav 1: 363 missing samples 0:58:45.741 wav 2: 363 missing samples 0:30:15.591 (wav 1 used for this shn archive, questionable spot at 58:45 was checked, no audible errors exist)
Mike Decker (2/0) SHN / 2 View 152
Martin Tuttle (2/0) SHN / 2 A View   (SET I and II) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > DAT > SSSB
Notes: "The Springfield Creamery Benefit" Lineage: (SET I and II) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > DAT > SSSB Lineage: (SET III) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > PCM (via analog inputs and outputs) > DAT > SSSB Disc 1 Set 1 gd72-08-27d1t01 05:55.154 Stage Announcements, Intros, Gift Presentations gd72-08-27d1t02 03:31.615 The Promised Land gd72-08-27d1t03 09:15.142 Sugaree gd72-08-27d1t04 03:26.284 Me & My Uncle gd72-08-27d1t05 05:59.371 Deal gd72-08-27d1t06 06:29.189 Black-Throated Wind gd72-08-27d1t07 02:54.501 Stage Announcements gd72-08-27d1t08 06:50.124 China Cat Sunflower -> gd72-08-27d1t09 07:11.195 -> I Know You Rider gd72-08-27d1t10 02:25.640 Stage Announcements gd72-08-27d1t11 04:02.117 Mexicali Blues gd72-08-27d1t12 05:52.303 Bertha Total time: 1:03:52.599 Disc 2 Set 2 gd72-08-27d2t01 05:46.072 Playing In The Band -> gd72-08-27d2t02 12:58.731 -> Playin' Jam -> gd72-08-27d2t03 03:04.497 -> Playing In The Band Reprise gd72-08-27d2t04 02:12.830 Stage Announcements gd72-08-27d2t05 09:07.728 He's Gone gd72-08-27d2t06 02:51.608 Stage Announcements gd72-08-27d2t07 06:03.697 Jack Straw gd72-08-27d2t08 12:32.493 Bird Song gd72-08-27d2t09 01:04.450 Stage Announcements gd72-08-27d2t10 05:30.255 Greatest Story Ever Told Total time: 1:01:12.361 Disc 3 Set 3 gd72-08-27d3t01 13:06.170 Dark Star -> gd72-08-27d3t02 18:30.692 -> "Jazz Star" Jam -> gd72-08-27d3t03 05:15.922 -> El Paso gd72-08-27d3t04 11:22.972 Sing Me Back Home gd72-08-27d3t05 00:49.914 Stage Announcements gd72-08-27d3t06 08:44.026 Sugar Magnolia gd72-08-27d3t07 02:57.378 Stage Announcements Total time: 1:00:45.074 Disc 4 Set 3 Cont'd gd72-08-27d4t01 07:00.520 Casey Jones gd72-08-27d4t02 05:28.586 One More Saturday Night gd72-08-27d4t03 02:02.090 Stage Announcements Total time: 0:14:31.196 LINEAGE: SBD > 4-track RTR > PCM via analog inputs > (Set III only: extra PCM conversion using analog inputs) > D > SSSB; other artist(s): NRPS; billed as "The Springfield Creamery Benefit"; "Casey Jones", "One More Saturday Night" are not encores, simply the end of the show (some databases state these 3 songs "may be encores"); any/all editing, fades, NR, hiss elimination, phase shifting/"time smear" correction, jitter elimination, and +/-2 dB max. EQ were performed using 100% digital-only processing (32-bit/196 kHz data stream) at Serafin Station Studio B [this show was released in 10/01] JAY'S PERSONAL COMMENTS: I have to say this was probably one of the most difficult shows I ever had to work on... EVER! Many reasons for this are able to be disclosed (which they will be), but some are verified confidential information which came from my Marin County source who sent me the best possible masters for this show. Set I and II: Due to the tape reels being plastic, rather than the usual metal type, when the tapes were archived to PCM, there were static problems which occurred due to the ambient electrical charges which occur when tape reels are fast forwarded and fast rewound to "loosen up" the tape. The static discharged through the tape layers, rather than through the metal reels, so the audio wound up becoming filled with little "pops, ticks, and crackles" throughout a lot of the layers of tape. To eliminate these very annoying (and very audible!) noises, I had to MANUALLY do and edit them out. Close to 3,000 total edits were performed for Set I and almost 2,500 edits for this same problem for Set II. This is why it took close to 8 weeks of work to get this show completed. Of course, I was working on other shows as well, but 90% of the time spent on this wonderful show was on literally looking at every second of audio, scrolling slowly forward, to find these problems. It would have been "nicer" if the static pops were almost identical in their waveform, as I could have had the editing software find them for me, and I would just edit them out. But, they varied to much in the way they appeared in the audio, that there was no "automatic" way to find these little buggers. I spent close to 120 hours on finding these items, but then I was done, I only had to "eliminate" less than 45 total seconds from the entire show, due to my not being able to correct the static noise by simply removing the offending part of the sample (each static "pop" was approximately 0.00025 seconds in length, so just eliminating the deformed part of the waveform too very little time away from the entire show), but having to eliminate an entire sample or part of a waveform (about 0.001 seconds in length). But the elimination of these annoying parts did not affect the way the end result audio sounds. There's no "stuttering" or noticeable missing audio. By performing the editing the way I did, it eliminated all of this "unwanted perverting" of the audio. There are only a few very minor pops left, which could not be eliminated without affecting the audio as a whole, so I simply lowered the volume of the offending noise, so it's just barely perceptible. With the usual amount of original RTR analog tape hiss from the decks being used at the slow speed, plus the analog transfer of the RTR > PCM (they did not do it in the digital domain for reasons I cannot divulge here), there was a fair amount of hiss throughout Sets I and II. I was able to reduce the amount by more than 85%, but there is still a very slight amount of hiss left, which is only noticeable during the between-song lulls, tunings, and the stage announcement, and ONLY if you have your audio cranked up REALLY HIGH! The amount of hiss I was able to remove, without affecting the audio, was so "massive", there were parts of the between song lulls where the band members were talking amongst themselves, etc., and that could not be heard at all, due to the original hiss. Now, you are able to hear EVERYTHING that was originally fed into the RTR decks! Set III: This came from a totally different set of archive tapes, which had more underlying hiss to them (due to the extra PCM transfer in the lineage), but the overall audio was better them most of the versions out there. So, even more noise reduction using different techniques, was used, and the result was close (and to a slight degree, even better than the Set I/II reduction!). There was a point, beginning with "Sing Me Back Home", where you could hear that someone did some adjustment to the RTR deck, and this hiss rose dramatically from that point to the end of the show. So, not only was I faced with a "different" type of hiss, I had to now "match" the EQ curve of the audio to anything prior to that song! It was a lot of work, but it was also a lot of fun, as this was one of my most challenging releases of a show I had ever attempted. Overall, there is a LOT more total show audio than in almost all of the versions in circulation. Close to 10 minutes of "additional material" is in this release. To perform all of the special static noise, I had to revert to converting the show from it's usual 16-bit/48.0 kHz data rate to the highest rates my software, sound card, and digital mixer can handle, which is 32-bit / 192 kHz sampling rate! This is better than DVD's audio, which is 24-bit/96 kHz sampling. But I needed to see more of the waveform, and to be able to manipulate the waveforms in such a precise manner. When I "down-converted" the audio to the standard for CD's, which is 16-bit / 44.1 kHz, I was able to move the quantization noise up into the 20 kHz range, which is well past the point if human hearing. Also, since this show contained very little in the way of high levels of audio above 14 kHz, it did not affect the "harmonics" and the subtle nuances which a lot of people would hear up in the 18-20 kHz audio range with a lot of music. So, everyone will hear all of the audio just as is was recorded onto the RTR decks, only with a much cleaner sound. I had to perform very little in the way of "trimming" of the show's audio for the reel flips and the PCM tape changes. From my editing notes, I was able to remove just under 50 total seconds of total show audio to perform the necessary crossfades. This is the best I could do with the masters I received, and I hope that everyone is happy with the results. I certainly was, and I am never totally happy with my "final release" versions of any show I've ever worked on! Uploaded exclusively to GDLive.com by: John "Jay" Serafin, owner/audio engineer @ Serafin Station Studio B "Making Kindness Dubs For Everyone!" No Profits Or Copyright Infringements EVER! Web Info: http://members.home.com/kinddubs E-Mail: [email protected]
Nick Bengivengo (2/0) SHN / 2 View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Andrew Rope (2/2.8) SHN / 2 View 3328 SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC
joe early (2/5) SHN / 2 View 4682 SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes: nice show
matt (2/0) cdr / 3 View  
Greg (2/5) cdr / 3 View  
Stefan Gailans (2/0) CDR / 3 A A View  
Ryan (2/0) cdr / 3 A View   SBD>MR>DAT>CDR
Chi (2/0) AUD / 2 View  
Notes: Set I, II, III
Claude Kuhnen (2/3) CD / 3 A+ A- View 2199 SBD
Evster310 (2/5) cdr / 3 View   SBD MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN
Kaitlin (2/5) cdr / 3 View  
Crow (2/1) shn, cdr / 3 View  
Bruce (2/0) cdr / 3 A A View   SDBD
Brian McCullom (2/0) shn / 2 View 152
Laura (2/0) / 0 View 4682
Matt (2/0) cdr / 4 A View   (SET I and II) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > DAT > SSSB (SET III) SBD > Re-Mixed...
Roger (2/4.3) CDR / 3 A A View   SBD
Notes: all i know is this is a crispy SBD