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Set I
On The Road Again, It Must Have Been The Roses, Monkey & The Engineer, Jack A Roe, Dark Hollow, To Lay Me Down, Heaven Help The Fool, Bird Song, Ripple
Set II
Mississippi Half Step, Franklin's Tower, Me & My Uncle, Big River, Candyman, Beat It On Down The Line, Row Jimmy, Minglewood Blues, Althea, Jack Straw
Set III
Scarlet Begonias, Fire On The Mountain, Samson & Delilah, Big Railroad Blues, Estimated Prophet, Eyes Of The World, Drums, Truckin', Nobody's Fault But Mine, Black Peter, Around & Around, Promised Land, E: U.S. Blues
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Acoustic set only; SBD>?>CDR; See info file for flaws; via Bart Hutchinson; seeded to etree by Willy
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Source: Recording (attributed to) Bob Menke: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Vernon
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Acoustic set only; SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN This new seed does not have the problems in Dark Hollow like the previous seed.
(24710) View Source
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MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN; C>DAT Conversion by Cousinit Patch Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700
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flac16; SBD/AUD Matrix of 3 previously circulated seeds; prepared by Chris Chappell
(73820) View Source
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flac16; Acoustic Set - sbd reel master > dats @ 44.1 kHz wavelab > cd wave/flac
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flac16; Recording by Ron Ellner. Source: Master Cassette > Nakamichi 700s > Sony TC D-5M; Location: FOB either on the floor or 1st row balcony; 1st Generation copy to Teac Reel to Reel; Transfer: Pioneer RT-701 Reel to Reel > Soundblaster Soundcard > Soundforge > CD; CD Extraction: EAC > TLH > FLAC level 8; Recorded and archived to Reels by Ron Ellner, the master cassettes were stolen. Transfer: Reels to PC by Mike Marino; CD Extraction and seeded by Bill Koucky; Green Mountain Bros. January 2008.
(8780) View Source
View Archive Acoustic set only; SBD>?>CDR; See info file for flaws; via Bart Hutchinson; seeded to etree by Willy
(13989) View Source
View Archive Source: Recording (attributed to) Bob Menke: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Vernon
(14386) View Source
View Archive Acoustic set only; SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN This new seed does not have the problems in Dark Hollow like the previous seed.
(24710) View Source
View Archive MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN; C>DAT Conversion by Cousinit Patch Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700
(28740) View Source
View Archive flac16; SBD/AUD Matrix of 3 previously circulated seeds; prepared by Chris Chappell
(73820) View Source
View Archive flac16; Acoustic Set - sbd reel master > dats @ 44.1 kHz wavelab > cd wave/flac
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View Archive flac16; Recording by Ron Ellner. Source: Master Cassette > Nakamichi 700s > Sony TC D-5M; Location: FOB either on the floor or 1st row balcony; 1st Generation copy to Teac Reel to Reel; Transfer: Pioneer RT-701 Reel to Reel > Soundblaster Soundcard > Soundforge > CD; CD Extraction: EAC > TLH > FLAC level 8; Recorded and archived to Reels by Ron Ellner, the master cassettes were stolen. Transfer: Reels to PC by Mike Marino; CD Extraction and seeded by Bill Koucky; Green Mountain Bros. January 2008.
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| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lost Sailor (2/0) | Shn / 0 | View | 8780 | Acoustic set only; SBD>?>CDR; See info file for flaws; via Bart Hutchinson; seeded to etree by... | ||
| Lost Sailor (2/0) | Shn / 0 | View | 14386 | Acoustic set only; SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN This new seed does not have the problems in Dark... | ||
| Lost Sailor (2/0) | Flac 16 / 0 | View | 73820 | flac16; Acoustic Set - sbd reel master > dats @ 44.1 kHz wavelab > cd wave/flac | ||
| Lost Sailor (2/0) | Flac 16 / 0 | View | 89560 | flac16; Recording by Ron Ellner. Source: Master Cassette > Nakamichi 700s > Sony TC D-5M;... | ||
| Lost Sailor (2/0) | Shn / 0 | View | 13989 | Source: Recording (attributed to) Bob Menke: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 from... | ||
| Nick Hoffmann (2/5) | SHN/CDR / 1 | A | A | View | 14386 | SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN |
| Notes: | CDR Filler: GD 11/30/80. | |||||
| A.D.Y. List (2/5) | FLAC / 1 | A | A | View | 13989 | Source: Matrix (SBD/AUD mixdown): SBD: Acoustic: SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN Electric:... |
| Notes: | General Notes: Given the multiple sources available on the Llama, I put the effort into editing a matrix of this often overlooked gem of the Warfield run from the Dead Set and Dead Reckoning live session recordings in the fall of '80. There may be better overall played shows from other nights at the Warfield and also their Radio City counterparts (don't forget the Saenger in NOLA), but my motivation here was the best versions of Althea and Jack Straw that I have heard, not to mention an excellent Scarlet>Fire. The Jack-a-roe is the version on Dead Reckoning (aka For The Faithful), and the quality of the acoustic set SBD is very crisp, probably close to the multi-tracks. The electric SBD is not as nice, but when coupled with the AUD, the show really comes to life. The electric SBD is also plagued by many holes, the worst being that there is no SBD for most of Truckin' and then through the rest of the show. All things equal, Althea, Jack Straw, Scarlet > Fire are completely sick, and worth the matrixed effort, not to mention it was fun doing an acoustic set too - the audience element is cool; and even though it's a balcony recording, the Warfield is small enough that the intimacy is still present and desirable. Timeline/Tracking Notes: Not much music is missing from the AUD, but the SBD lacks good coverage, except for the upgraded acoustic set which has more in between song tuning. The transition between all three discs can be put together seemlessly. The show tracks well for 3 discs (2 of them 80 min. discs), and even though it's a 3 set show, I felt it important to keep it to 3 discs. This way the end of the second set and the beginning of the third set are on disc 2, and that's where the nuggets are anyway. Editing Notes: - Pitch Both sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest, and the AUD being the flatest. I used the SBD as my master timeline and pitch referenced the AUD to it. The AUD on average had to be pitched up about .28 (28 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being 100 cents which is a semitone. However, this pitch differential did fluctuate throughout the show, and was especially tough in Row Jimmy as the reels on the SBD were running out. Big RXR Blues is funky too. I did not reference A=440 as I did not desire to pitch adjust the SBD. It is very close though to A=440, albeit a little sharp. - Synch Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many edits to list). - Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio I did choose to employ a slight amount of limiting to the SBD (Waves L2) to give it a slight amount of punch and presence. For the electric SBD source I had to employ some noise reduction as the hiss is a little much and takes away from the matrix sonically. Waves X-Noise was used to accomplish this task, in which I used the "learn" function which isolated the hiss through frequency spectrum analysis and drew an appropriate graph for EQ. I was then able to solo just the noise being "reduced" and found that almost no music was being lost, thus an optimum result. Conceptually, all I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD, which is pretty dry but very crisp, by using the ambience of the AUD. The result is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between 3:1 and 4:1, leaning more towards the 4:1 end of things. - Edits The following are places where the SBD and AUD had holes or incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. I also edited out reel pauses from the SBD where appropriate (like places where the AUD is the only source because the SBD has been paused) to provide an enjoyable listening experience. I left them in where the SBD was the only source (like the beginning of Estimated). | |||||
| Dave Sanders (2/5) | shn / 2 | View | 13989 | |||
| Dave Sanders (2/5) | shn / 1 | View | 14386 | |||
| Bill Tetzeli (2/5) | SHN / 1 | View | 14386 | SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN | ||
| Notes: | Acoustic set | |||||
| Bill Tetzeli (2/5) | SHN / 3 | View | 24710 | MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN | ||
| Notes: | Electric sets | |||||
| cisconethead (2/0) | / 0 | View | 28740 | |||
| Brian DeLong (2/5) | FLAC / 2 | View | 28740 | SBD Matrix | ||
| Tom Langdon (2/5) | cd / 1 | View | 14386 | |||
| Marshall (2/5) | Flac / 2 | View | ||||
| Brian Colligan (2/0) | flac / 2 | View | 28740 | |||
| Notes: | Matrix (Sick Bits Vol. 3) | |||||
| Rolf K (2/0) | CD-R / 2 | View | 28740 | |||
| Mike McCarthy (2/5) | cdr / 1 | View | SBD>?>CDR | |||
| Notes: | acoustic set/sbd. seeded to etree 4/12/02 | |||||
| Michael McMullan (2/5) | CDR/FLAC / 3 | A- | View | 28740 | Matrix | |
| Notes: | Acoustic and Electric Sets | |||||
| Michael McMullan (2/5) | CDR/SHN / 1 | A | View | 14386 | SBD | |
| Notes: | Acoustic Set Only | |||||
| Michael McMullan (2/5) | CDR/SHN / 3 | A- | View | 13989 | Aud | |
| Notes: | Acoustic and Electric Sets | |||||
| Michael McMullan (2/5) | CDR/SHN / 3 | A | View | 24710 | SBD | |
| Notes: | Electric Set Only | |||||
| dogsinapile (2/0) | CDR / 1 | View | 73820 | 73820 | ||
| Notes: | acoustic | |||||
| dogsinapile (2/0) | CDR / 1 | View | 14386 | 14386 | ||
| Notes: | Acoustic Set | |||||
| Andrew Long (2/4.8) | shn / 2 | View | 24710 | MSR (cousinit) | ||
| Andrew Long (2/4.8) | flac / 2 | View | 28740 | Matrix (Chappell) | ||
| Notes: | 1.32GB; Sick Bits vol.3 | |||||
| Canyon (2/5) | audio / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | 8 acoustic set only | |||||
| Chris_G (2/0) | HD2 / 1 | View | 14386 | |||
| Notes: | Acoustic set. | |||||
| Jonathan Hatgis (2/0) | flac / 1 | View | 73820 | |||
| Notes: | Acoustic Set - sbd reel master > dats @ 44.1 kHz wavelab > cd wave/flac | |||||
| Jonathan Hatgis (2/0) | shn / 2 | View | 24710 | |||
| Notes: | MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN; C>DAT Conversion by Cousinit Patch Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 | |||||