Grateful Dead 08/27/1972

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Set I

Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha

Set II

Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told

Set III

Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night

Comment

Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS

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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating

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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy

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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not

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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds

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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes

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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed

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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)

User (active/rating)	Media / #	Show	Sound	Details	DB Source	User Source
ANGLE (0/0)	SHN / 2			View	21619
Klay (0/0)	CDR / 3	A+	A++	View
BIKIN (0/0)	CD-R / 4			View
Summerski (0/0)	/ 0			View	21619
Joseph B. DiLiberto (0/0)	/ 0			View
Seraphim (0/0)	/ 2			View	3328	Lineage:SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->
Notes:	David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: This is not the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently
Alex Herd (0/3)	CDR / 3		A	View		SBD
Clayton A. (0/5)	CDR / 3		A+	View
Joe (0/0)	CD / 3			View
Chris Black (0/0)	CDR / 3			View	2199	SBD (Master Betty Reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD EAC > SHN
Dave Ziglar (0/4.7)	shn / 2		A	View		SBD > MR > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD > SHN
Notes:	SBD > MR > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD > SHN
Dave Ziglar (0/4.7)	shn / 2		A	View	3328	SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR
Notes:	From master reel of "Sunshine Daydream" movie soundtrack.
David (0/0)	CDR / 3			View
Matt Garrett (0/0)	/ 3	A	A	View		Soundboard
Ben Neuman (0/5)	CD-R / 3			View	2199	Betty reel>PCM>dat>za2>cd>eac>shn
Notes:	This Betty Boards is sickeningly crisp. This is one of my favorite versions of "Playing in the Band", and the Dark Star isn't too shabby either.
Sydster (0/5)	SHN / 2			View
Notes:	Orf source
Sydster (0/5)	SHN / 2			View	2199
Sydster (0/5)	SHN / 2			View	4682
Notes:	16 track MR source
_ (0/2.8)	9.7 / 3		9.7	View		SBD> Reel(m)> PCM> DAT
barryweiser (0/0)	cdr - mp3 / 2			View		Veneta, OR.
Mike (0/0)	CD / 3	A	A-	View		SBDMR>???>CD
Brian (0/0)	CDR / 2		A	View		SBD
RRB (0/5)	cd-r / 3		*Se	View		Bootleg - Field Trip: Springfield Creamery Field Trip
Notes:	Missing encore - One More Saturday Night
jimmy sellers (0/5)	/ 0			View	152	SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN
Zack Hines (0/5)	CDr / 3			View	2199
Notes:	SHN
Jason Musante (0/0)	SHN / 2			View	4682	16 Track SBD
Notes:	-Danked!
Jon McDonough (0/5)	SHN / 2	A	A	View	2199
MJ (0/0)	SHN / 3			View		SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->
Notes:	Grateful Dead 08/27/72 Old Renaissance Fairground, Veneta OR Lineage: SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents) David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: This is not the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently. Update, as of 3/30/01- There was originally 1 MD5 file for this show, so I decided to create an individual MD5 file for each disc. This does NOT affect the verification process, nor does it reduce accuracy to original SHN files. -Andy Lepley ([email protected]) Disc 1 Set 1 1. [ 4:14.13] Stage Announcements 2. [ 3:36.65] The Promised Land 3. [ 9:15.23] Sugaree 4. [ 3:27.26] Me And My Uncle 5. [ 4:40.57] Deal 6. [ 7:10.26] Black Throated Wind 7. [15:05.18] China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider 8. [ 3:43.36] Mexicali Blues 9. [ 5:53.40] Bertha -------- 57:07.04 Disc 2 Set 2 1. [18:38.49] Playin' In The Band * 2. [ 2:20.74] Stage Announcements 3. [ 8:45.74] He's Gone 4. [ 0:32.22] Stage Chatter 5. [ 5:04.35] Jack Straw 6. [12:33.67] Bird Song @ 7. [ 0:28.24] Stage Announcements 8. [ 5:32.18] Greatest Story Ever Told -------- 53:56.63 Disc 3 Set 3 1. [ 0:58.05] Stage Announcements 2. [31:13.05] Dark Star -> 3. [ 5:19.02] El Paso 4. [10:25.61] Sing Me Back Home 5. [ 0:48.32] Stage Announcements 6. [ 8:30.16] Sugar Magnolia $ 7. [ 2:06.40] Stage Announcements 8. [ 6:12.02] Casey Jones 9. [ 5:26.43] One More Saturday Night 10. [ 6:24.10] Stage Announcements & -------- 77:23.66 Footnotes: * First 57 seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Gans) @ At about 6:50 two seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Orf) $ Piano distortion starting at 5:05 is on original reel (somewhat cleaned up by Orf) & Stage Announcements can be eliminated to fit disc 3 on a 74 min CD-R General Comments: In all the circulating copies of this show I've heard, including this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member's instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them) with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart enough to find and fix these particular pops. I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin'. I determined by using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil's A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by "tuning" (speeding up) the new source, everything sounds "right" and the transition from the Betty source into this source in Playin' no longer had that audible speed slowdown. I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except the first 57 seconds of Playin') which effectively "played the original reel a little faster". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were shorter). I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix. Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds "clearer"; there is a better defined high end which leads to a less "veiled" sound than the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds more "veiled" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it's hiss only from the original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating. Enjoy, and feel free to send comments my way. Thanks again to David Gans and Adam Jerugim for making this possible. Leigh Orf <[email protected]> http://orf.cx written March 10, 2001
Michael Sheridan (0/5)	/ 0			View
Jeff Arndt (0/5)	CDR & SHN / 3			View

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