Grateful Dead 08/27/1972

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Set I

Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha

Set II

Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told

Set III

Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night

Comment

Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS

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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating

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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy

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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not

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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds

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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes

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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed

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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)

User (active/rating)	Media / #	Show	Sound	Details	DB Source	User Source
David Karp (0/0)	cdr / 3			View
justin clohesy (0/0)	cdr / 3			View
Notes:	TAO
Matt Azznara (0/0)	cdr / 3		A-	View	152	SBD MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN
Notes:	label
Rick (0/0)	/ 0			View
Scott Myers (0/0)	CDR / 3		A	View		Unknown
Notes:	Promised Land Sugaree Me and My Uncle Deal Black Throated Wind China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Mexicali Blues Bertha Playing in the Band He's Gone Jack Straw Bird Song Greatest Story Ever Told Dark Star El Paso Sing Me Back Home Sugar Magnolla Casey Jones
Ed Klavoon (0/0)	cdr / 3		A+	View		SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR
Notes:	Grateful Dead 08/27/72 Old Renaissance Fairground, Veneta OR Lineage: SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents) David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: This is not the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently. Disc 1 Set 1 1. [ 4:14.13] Stage Announcements 2. [ 3:36.65] The Promised Land 3. [ 9:15.23] Sugaree 4. [ 3:27.26] Me And My Uncle 5. [ 4:40.57] Deal 6. [ 7:10.26] Black Throated Wind 7. [15:05.18] China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider 8. [ 3:43.36] Mexicali Blues 9. [ 5:53.40] Bertha -------- 57:07.04 Disc 2 Set 2 1. [18:38.49] Playin' In The Band * 2. [ 2:20.74] Stage Announcements 3. [ 8:45.74] He's Gone 4. [ 0:32.22] Stage Chatter 5. [ 5:04.35] Jack Straw 6. [12:33.67] Bird Song @ 7. [ 0:28.24] Stage Announcements 8. [ 5:32.18] Greatest Story Ever Told -------- 53:56.63 Disc 3 Set 3 1. [ 0:58.05] Stage Announcements 2. [31:13.05] Dark Star -> 3. [ 5:19.02] El Paso 4. [10:25.61] Sing Me Back Home 5. [ 0:48.32] Stage Announcements 6. [ 8:30.16] Sugar Magnolia $ 7. [ 2:06.40] Stage Announcements 8. [ 6:12.02] Casey Jones 9. [ 5:26.43] One More Saturday Night 10. [ 6:24.10] Stage Announcements & -------- 77:23.66 Footnotes: * First 57 seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Gans) @ At about 6:50 two seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Orf) $ Piano distortion starting at 5:05 is on original reel (somewhat cleaned up by Orf) & Stage Announcements can be eliminated to fit disc 3 on a 74 min CD-R General Comments: In all the circulating copies of this show I've heard, including this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member's instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them) with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart enough to find and fix these particular pops. I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin'. I determined by using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil's A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by "tuning" (speeding up) the new source, everything sounds "right" and the transition from the Betty source into this source in Playin' no longer had that audible speed slowdown. I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except the first 57 seconds of Playin') which effectively "played the original reel a little faster". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were shorter). I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix. Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds "clearer"; there is a better defined high end which leads to a less "veiled" sound than the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds more "veiled" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it's hiss only from the original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating. Enjoy, and feel free to send comments my way. Thanks again to David Gans and Adam Jerugim for making this possible. Leigh Orf <[email protected]> http://orf.cx written March 10, 2001
Bilbo (0/0)	CDR / 3			View
Tony Wilkens (0/0)	/ 2			View
Billy Diehl (0/2.5)	CDR / 3	A	A	View
Drew Cappabianca (0/0)	CD-R/shn / 3		A-	View	152	SBD-MR>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN
Chris DeLucia (0/0)	CDR / 3			View	152
Greg Mortenson (0/0)	CDR / 3	A	A+	View		SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
alex (0/0)	cdr / 3		A	View
Daniel Sittner (0/0)	CD-R / 3			View		SBD>MR>D>CD
A W (0/0)	CDR / 3			View		SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > DAT > SSSB
Notes:	"Serafin Master" Lineage: (SET I and II) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > DAT > SSSB Lineage: (SET III) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > PCM (via analog inputs and outputs) > DAT > SSSB
For Reference Only (0/3.5)	DAT / 0			View
Notes:	County Fairgrounds, Veneta Ca - complete 4.8, 227min, Sbd, A0D2, Reel M->PCM 1->Dat 1, 44k 10inch Master [email protected] 1/2trk->PCM x 1->3700 x 0->3700 x 1
For Reference Only (0/3.5)	DAT / 0			View
Notes:	County Fairgrounds, Veneta Ca - complete 4.9, 199min, Sbd, A0D1, Reel M->Dat 1, 44k, 14inch 16trk Master Reels@15ips->3700 x 0->3800 x 1
Tony Gardner (0/5)	shn / 2			View	3328
Tony Gardner (0/5)	shn / 2			View	4682
Lincoln and Carolyn (0/0)	CD-R / 3			View		BBD
Mike Snider (0/0)	/ 0			View	3328
Eric Lyman (0/5)	SHN / 3			View		SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog...
Mike (0/0)	CD / 3		A+	View	2199
nick walls (0/0)	aud / 3	A-	A	View		SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->soundforge
Al M. (0/0)	SHN / 2			View		SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->
Brian Band (0/0)	/ 0			View
shc (0/0)	Cdr / 3			View		SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes:	Dankseed
SCIpermavine (0/0)	CDR SHN / 2			View		SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->
Notes:	*Bonus from Bret
Brian Band (0/0)	/ 0			View
Michael (0/0)	CD-R / 4			View

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