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Set I
Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha
Set II
Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told
Set III
Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night
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Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS
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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy
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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes
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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)
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View Archive SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
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View Archive SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy
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View Archive SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
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View Archive SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
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View Archive SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes
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View Archive SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
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View Archive Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)
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| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
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| jeremy (0/0) | shn / 0 | View | Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN | |||
| Casey Byrne (0/0) | / 0 | View | ||||
| Geoff King (0/0) | SHN / 0 | View | ||||
| Anasazi (0/0) | CDR / 3 | View | SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> | |||
| Notes: | ||||||
| Anasazi (0/0) | SHN / 2 | View | SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->Sound Forge Edit (analog pop... | |||
| 1972 Guy (0/0) | / 0 | View | ||||
| jacob kosakowski (0/0) | CDR / 3 | View | SBD>?>CDR | |||
| Notes: | d1-Set I 1. intro 4:15 2. Promised Land 3:37 3. Sugaree 9:15 4. Me and My Uncle 3:28 5. Deal 4:41 6. Black Throated Wind 7:10 7. China Cat->I Know You Rider 15:05 8. Mexicali Blues 3:43 9. Bertha 5:54 d2-Set II 1. Playin in the Band 18:39 2. banter 2:21 3. He's Gone 8:46 4. banter :33 5. Jack Straw 5:04 6. Bird Song 12:35 7. banter :28 8. Greatest Story Ever Told 5:32 d3-Set III 1. intro :59 2. Dark Star-> 31:13 3. El Paso 5:19 4. Sing Me Back Home 10:26 5. banter 2:06 6. Sugar Magnolia 8:31 7. banter 2:06 8. Casey Jones 6:13 9. One More Saturday Night 5:26 10.banter 6:24 | |||||
| Zach (0/0) | CDr / 3 | A | View | |||
| Joe Bullhead (0/0) | CDR / 3 | View | 152 | |||
| Brian Walker (0/5) | SHN / 3 | n/a | View | SBD MR DAT CDR EAC SHN Epic Show, cleanest version known | ||
| Notes: | n/a | |||||
| Ian Coronado (0/0) | CD/SHN / 3 | View | 152 | |||
| Rob Trauthwein (0/0) | CDR / 3 | A | View | SBD | ||
| damon manetta (0/0) | CD-R / 3 | A | A | View | SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN | |
| Notes: | DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f (see error logs below) WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very tightly, almost no banter is present in this version. Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source. The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge (small bits of analog static removed): d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone: d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel d1t01, 2:26 slight pop d1t07, 3:48 click d2t01, 6:00 faint click d2t04, 10:12 pop d2t05, 3:36 click d2t05, 3:42 click d3t01, 28:24 click d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001 DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001 | |||||
| deadone38 (0/0) | cdr / 3 | View | ||||
| Notes: | sbd | |||||
| Steve VH (0/0) | CDR / 3 | A | A- | View | Betty Board | |
| Dave Ginder (0/0) | cdr / 3 | A | a | View | ||
| Ryan Burns (0/5) | SHN / 2 | View | 3328 | SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->Soundforge->SHN | ||
| Jamie Ippolito (0/5) | CDR / 3 | A | View | 2199 | ||
| Brian Walker (0/5) | SHN / 2 | View | 3328 | SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit... | ||
| David Bradley (0/5) | cdr / 3 | View | 2199 | Master Betty Reel>PCM>DAT>ZA2>CD>EAC>SHN | ||
| Rick (0/0) | shn / 2 | A+ | A+ | View | 3328 | SBD > two-track MR > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CDR > EAC > SHN (also see more... |
| Notes: | Full source info: SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 tracked for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced-this is not. David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR >DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: Again: This is *not* the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently. See further notes taken from the text file: General Comments: In all the circulating copies of this show I've heard, including this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member's instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them) with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart enough to find and fix these particular pops. I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin'. I determined by using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil's A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by "tuning" (speeding up) the new source, everything sounds "right" and the transition from the Betty source into this source in Playin' no longer had that audible speed slowdown. I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except the first 57 seconds of Playin') which effectively "played the original reel a little faster". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were shorter). I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix. Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds "clearer"; there is a better defined high end which leads to a less "veiled" sound than the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds more "veiled" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it's hiss only from the original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating. Enjoy, and feel free to send comments my way. Thanks again to David Gans and Adam Jerugim for making this possible. Leigh Orf http://orf.cx | |||||
| Jeffrey McDearmon (0/5) | shn / 3 | View | 3328 | |||
| Don Liles (0/0) | CD / 3 | View | ||||
| Notes: | KPFA 2001 tree | |||||
| troy richey (0/5) | CDR / 3 | A | A | View | ||
| Burner Ben (0/0) | CDR / 3 | View | 2199 | Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of... | ||
| Dan Gabbe (0/0) | cdr / 3 | View | 3328 | |||
| Jay Morris (0/0) | CD-R / 3 | 9.5 | View | SBD>Master Reel>Dat>CD-R | ||
| Rob Snow (0/4.8) | CD-R & SHN / 3 | View | ||||
| Brian Watson (0/0) | CDR / 3 | View | 4682 | |||
| David Francis (0/4.7) | cdr/shn / 3 | View | 4682 | |||