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Pink Floyd 11/16/74
Empire Pool, London, England
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Set I
Speak To Me >
Breathe
On The Run
Time
Breathe (Reprise)
The Great Gig In The Sky
Money
Us And Them
Any Colour You Like
Brain Damage
Eclipse

E: Echoes
Set II
 
Set III
 
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User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
eddie hazel (5/0) CDR / 2 View  
Luke (5/4.7) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: Artwork included
hazel1183 (5/5) cdr / 2 View  
David LeMond (5/5) CDR / 2 View   sdbd
Tulum (5/0) FLAC / 11 View   Harvested release (HRV CDR 033)
Notes: In 1974, the BBC taped the second set (The Dark Side On The Moon) and the encore (Echoes) of the Floyd performance at Wembley Empire Pool, on November 16. However, Echoes was never broadcast, and for many years only the The Dark Side On The Moon set was circulating from broadcast sources. In recent years, recordings taken from the BBC pre-FM tapes began to circulate, some of them including the long lost soundboard version of Echoes. However, none of these RoIOs were fully sonically satisfactory in our opinion. Most of them were processed and used some kind of noise reduction, sometimes very slightly (the Sirene releases), and other times more heavily (the Winston remasters, "Time In London") The rare, unprocessed versions currently circulating, like the "FM Pre-Master" Russian bootleg, are pleasant but not without a certain amount of hiss, which reveals that the lineage was not without some generational loss. The hiss from the unprocessed versions available until now is probably one of the reasons why so much NR was used on the various remaster projects. After much research, Harvested found a superior source, totally unprocessed, with much less hiss than the other unprocessed versions circulating until now. A spectral analysis of the audio file showed that this source was very pure and could be the result of direct transfer from the BBC masters. "Wembley 1974 FM Premaster" (Russian bootleg) --------------------------------------------- This obscure bootleg, remastered by Pink Robert, contains only DSOTM (with the "mad for f* years" lines), but shows no sign of heavy processing. The sound is bright and clear, very natural, without artifact. However, there's a certain amount of hiss, probably revealing some gens in the lineage. Harvested's "BBC Archives 1974" offers slightly better clarity in terms of sound definition (due to lower gen), with much less hiss. The Harvested Team.
Jeff Hagood (5/5) CDR / 1 View  
Larry (5/4.3) cd-r / 1 A View   SBD (BBC broadcast), SHN
Notes: http://www.pf-roio.de/roio/roio-cd/brain_damage_cap.cd.html Made in Australia by Capricorn Records This is the same as the previous Brain Damage by Sigma 6 records. In fact, I think it's probably made by the same company. The performance is great, with incredible (added in- I dont think that it is incredible, but it is very very good) sound quality, thanks to its BBC broadcast origin. It's a good CD to have if you seek a post-release performance of DSoTM. All of the comments for the other Brain Damage still apply. - RUDI I've finally had the opportunity to A-B the new Capricorn issue of "Brain Damage" against the original Sigma 6 issue. The latter seems to retain slightly higher fidelity and 'loudness' to my ears - perhaps Capricorn No-Noised their disk.... -THE HEDONIST
ehazel1965 (5/0) cdr / 2 View  
slsnow1183 (5/0) cdr / 2 View  
Brad Peck (5/4.9) cdr / 1 View  
Denis Charette (5/4.5) CDR / 2 A View   Exc Snbd
Notes: "Wembley 1974 Pre-FM Master" Exc Snbd. / I also have "Time In London" 1 CD
Adam (5/5) CDR / 1 C View  
Notes: Brain Damage-Does not include Echoes
Adam (5/5) CDR / 2 View  
Notes: "Wembley 1974 Pre-FM Master" - Sirene
Zoooma (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Pre-FM
Notes: title: Wembley 1974 Pre FM-Master (2CD) Sirene-009 LIMITED EDITION: 300 COPIES ONLY (NUMBERED)
David Michael ORorey (5/3.7) PC & Data DVD+R / 2 A+ A+ View   Losless Flac & Mp3 Files saved on Data DVD+R's & on PC.
Notes: Perfect audience A+ for Disc 1 & Disc 2 Soundboard for Dark Side Of The Moon - Live A+ 10/10 for both.
tomtaper4 (5/3.5) CDR / 1 A A View   SBD
Notes: SBD
robertofoo777 (5/4.3) CDR / 1 ?? ?? View  
robertofoo777 (5/4.3) CDR / 1 ?? ?? View  
Notes: "BBC Archives 1974" Harvested Records (HRV CDR 033) > FLAC
John (5/5) CDR/FLAC / 1 View  
Jonathan (5/0) / 2 View  
Notes: have many versions in the archive. The matrix 2 set version is the best.
buc2220 (5/5) CDR / 2 A View   FM
michael kass (5/5) cdr / 2 View  
Lester's Soundroom (5/5) CDR / 1 View  
Notes: / FLAC 429MB - bbc archives
George Rue (5/5) CD / 2 A View   SBD
PIERRE LE GUINIO (5/4.9) CDR / 1 A View   FM BBC "Archives 1974"
Notes: FM
Jack Warner (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   PreFM>?>FLAC
Roy Martin\'s Music Collection (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   3 Source Mix (C056)
Notes: SBD + AUD1 + AUD2 Matrix Mix (60%/SBD + 25%/AUD1 + 15%/AUD2)
Roy Martin\'s Music Collection (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Wembley 1974 Pre FM-Master (TT118)
Notes: Liberated Sirene bootleg. Info file says, "The second half and encore of the show of 16th November 1974 was recorded by BBC Radio One. However, only "Dark Side Of The Moon" - with the line "I've been mad for fucking years" in "Speak To Me" removed from the mix - was broadcasted, on the Alan Freeman Show on 11th January 1975. This is taken from the original pre-broadcast master tapes including encore "Echoes"."
Roy Martin\'s Music Collection (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Nigel Bradder's source (Z306)
Notes: Source: Master Rec2 Lineage: 2 Binaural Mics>Sanyo Stereo Cass Recorder>2 Agfa C90 cass(m)>CDR(?)>FLAC Taped by: Nigel Bradder Remaster 1. Speed error identified and corrected. 2. Tonality adjusted. 3. Left channel dropouts corrected. 4. Tape Flip gaps repaired and filled. 5. Many clicks and pops repaired. 6. Auto-tape-record-level suppressions fixed. 7. Audience and tape noise reduced. 8. Channel imbalance corrected. 9. Re-track, patching DSOTM and including all of DSOTM on disc 2
Roy Martin\'s Music Collection (5/5) FLAC / 0 View   Raving Lunatics (Z306)
Notes: Taken from the original analogue record "The Screaming Abdab"(Wizardo) Raving Lunatics is another all encompassing, comprehensive set that Sirene love to produce and put out. Pink Floyd’s November 16th 1974 Wembley show has to be the most covered and bootlegged shows of their entire career. This is the source for the famous BBC Broadcast plus two nearly complete excellent audience recordings also exist. The first one, circulated and commonly called Black Holes In The Sky, is missing “Echoes”. Sirene use on the first three discs the so-called “second” audience recording. The taper of this source was a bit more distant from the stage but his tape is more complete with a complete “Echoes” and most of the between song tunings. Except for some tape flips between songs and a cut at one minute-twenty seven seconds in “Any Colour You Like” it is musically complete. The sound quality is very good and all of the instruments are clear with excellent dynamics. This production was sourced from the master tapes, and the sound is quite clean with moderate tape hiss for the equipment used at the time. This was a very low gen source; therefore no hiss or noise reduction was used. The band take a long time between songs for setting up and tuning and the taper provides a running commentary. At the very beginning he wonders out loud if there is a bomb scare at the venue since security searched his bags. Later on he tells someone next to him that this is his second time taping a concert (Tangerine Dream was the first) and he’s taping the Pink Floyd concert on the following night too, and tells his friend how to get a copy of his tape. There are also some comments about the hour’s worth of brand new music that is played for the first half of the show and gives an interesting perspective on approaching this material. Dark Side Of The Moon was released nineteen months before and there was much speculation and expectation about the band’s follow up. We hear this tape nearly forty years afterwards as nascent versions of well-known classic songs. But put into its proper context these three songs sound like long, mysterious soundscapes full of dread. Journalist Nick Kent, in reviewing this run of shows, commented, “Still, the Floyd can content themselves on one score. They are definitely the quintessential English band. No other combine quite sums up the rampant sense of doomed mediocrity inherent in this country’s current outlook right now ... and there’s absolutely nothing ‘cosmic’ about any of it, really, now is there?” Even Gilmour was very negative about these shows, feeling that the band didn’t play the new material well due to lack of proper equipment. Be that as it may the first half sounds fine with “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” reaching more than twenty minutes and played as one piece instead of being split as would be in the future. “You Gotta Be Crazy” contains vocal elements from “Atom Heart Mother”. The Dark Side second half is perhaps the most well known and widely circulated Pink Floyd tape in existence since it was recorded and broadcast by the BBC. This is the first show where “Echoes” was performed with a saxophone solo and back up singers. Sirene added a fourth disc to this set with their fifth release of the pre-FM master tape. Raving Lunatics does sounds deeper and richer than their previous best version Absolutely Years but its inclusion is really a distraction to the audience recording. Sirene added as a bonus a miniature replica of the Winter Tour ‘74 tour program produced by Hypgnosis and takes the form of a comic book. Each band member is given a different story line and the lyrics to the three new songs are printed on the inside. The center page contains a caricature of the band by Gerald Scarfe. The band members bear a passing resemblance to characters later used in The Wall with Gilmour looking like Mother and Waters resembling the Wife. The bonus cdr for Raving Lunatics is a copy of the vinyl release The Screaming Abadab on Wizardo (WRMB 330). Also released as Raving And Drooling (TAKRL 1973), Raving And Drooling on Beacon Island Records (2S722) along with the KQED 1970 broadcast, and many others, Sirene copied straight from a vinyl copy complete with surface noise. It is a good and clear mono audience recording that cuts out at the end of “You Got To Be Crazy”. It is listenable but flat and lacking in dynamics. The entire show was taped and might someday make a really nice two-disc release that would be very much welcomed since the performance is actually better than the previous night. Sirene use the thick glossy paper inserts and limit this title to only three hundred copies. 16th November 1974 is a famous concert and it is good to have a well produced and mastered version of the complete concert available and Raving Lunatics is recommended.