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Privacy Statement

db.etree.org does not collect personally-identifiable information about you except for the information you disclose to us. To maintain a list on the site, you must provide a username, password, e-mail address, etc. We also know your IP address and our host keeps server logs, like most everyone does. We use this information to improve the site, troubleshoot, and assist us in running db.etree.org

db.etree.org will never sell or disclose your personal information to others, unless required to by law. We hate spam and direct marketers, too.

db.etree.org uses cookies to identify you while you browse parts of the site that require a login. Without them, you would have to login every time you viewed a page associated with your list. These cookies contain no information about you. They simply provide a unique ID # to use while visiting, and then expire when you log out or when enough time passes.

We may use any information you provide to us to contact you with questions or concerns about your use of db.etree.org. Your IP address may be tracked, monitored, recorded and used by any means we deem necessary in order to restrict your access to db.etree.org. We will, however, generally keep all of this information confidential and will not disclose it to anyone without your permission and/or a very good reason, except as required by law.

User Conduct

Almost all etree.org users conduct themselves in a polite, community-minded way. A few do not. Those who do not risk losing their db.etree accounts and their privilege to download torrents via bt.etree.

There is no list of prohibited conduct here. That does not mean that anything goes. Instead, we trust you to use good judgment. All you need is common sense to avoid crossing the line. If you're uncertain, you probably shouldn't do it, whatever it is.

Generally, we will contact people whose behavior is becoming a problem. Most of the time, a simple e-mail resolves the issue. That's one of the things admins do, and you can reach us at db@etree.org

Offering to sell shows, or being caught selling them on eBay, will probably result in the loss of your account without warning or reprieve.

Legal Stuff

If you have a legal concern about the content of db.etree.org, please read this page first. You can then contact us using the link below.


THERE IS NO MUSIC OR VIDEO AT DB.ETREE.ORG.

We are not a download site.
We are not a file-sharing service.
We are not a peer to peer service or a bittorrent tracker.
You cannot download anything here except for text files.

THERE IS NO MUSIC OR VIDEO AT DB.ETREE.ORG.

What is db.etree.org? db.etree.org does three things. First, we provide a database of performance information: who played what, when and where. Second, we are a database of recording information for lossless audio recordings for bands like the Grateful Dead, Phish and many others, who have wisely chosen to permit their fans to record and/or freely exchange their live performances. Third, we provide a mechanism for users to link these performances and recordings to personalized lists.


  • Some people think that the performances and recordings listed here can be downloaded from db.etree.org. That is untrue. THERE IS NO MUSIC OR VIDEO AT DB.ETREE.ORG.

  • If you are a copyright holder, you have an obligation to make a reasonable and diligent investigation of the facts before claiming that we are violating your copyright. That investigation will show that we aren't violating your copyright. THERE IS NO MUSIC OR VIDEO AT DB.ETREE.ORG

  • We are occasionally contacted about material on other websites that are linked from db.etree.org. For example, the Live Music Archive has audio files that can be downloaded. Similarly, bt.etree.org tracks BitTorrent sessions. Both sites contain legal material only, and comply with artists' taping/trading policies. If they make a mistake, please contact them directly. We cannot remove content from other people's websites. THERE IS NO MUSIC OR VIDEO AT DB.ETREE.ORG

  • From time to time, artists' policies change. There can confusion about the contours of an artist's trading policy. Occasionally, material is mis-listed here (or on another site linked from db.etree) as being one thing when it is in fact something else. This usually happens by mistake, and can be easily corrected. Please let us know, and we will investigate and make whatever changes are appropriate.

  • If you want us to remove performance listings from db.etree, we probably won't. That's like asking a library to remove newspapers from the shelves because you don't like what they say. If, however, you find an inaccuracy in the performance data, we are anxious to correct it. Indeed, you can do so by clicking the edit link on each performance listing. You do not need to contact us to make a correction. Just go ahead and do it.

  • We are occasionally threatened with legal action because a user's list refers to material that may not be lawfully copied. If you believe that a db.etree site user is infringing your copyright, please begin by contacting that user directly. In our experience, the most common problem is ignorance, and asking nicely works wonders.

  • We also provide a mechanism for users to distinguish between material that may, and that may not, be lawfully traded. Therefore, please do not ask us to intervene in a private dispute with a user of this site. We cannot enter people's homes and confiscate their possessions. Even if we could, we wouldn't.

    • A final word to performers and their lawyers:

    We are not your enemy. Please take the time to learn about what we do. If you still have concerns, use this opportunity to reach us by e-mail. We will gladly address your concerns if we can.

    In a database this large, mistakes are inevitable. They can usually be corrected. Your misplaced hostility will not help. Nor will an inconsiderate and inaccurate cease and desist letter. If you are a lawyer, you will suffer the embarrassment of explaining to your client that you made a mistake. And, we who practice law take our our ethical responsibilities seriously. So should you. Attorneys: please review New York MR 1.3, MR 3.1, MR 4.1, MR 4.3, or DR 7-102, DR 7-104, or your jurisdiction's equivalent.

    If you have any legal questions or concerns about this site, you can reach us at legal@etree.org. We look forward to hearing from you.