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Grateful Dead 10/26/80
Radio City Music Hall, New York, NY
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Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums flac-md5 , ffp
Disc Counts 2 / 3
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Source Summary flac16; Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC) 
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Grateful Dead
Radio City Music Hall
New York, NY
October 26, 1980

Jerry Garcia - Lead Guitar, Vocals
Mickey Hart - Drums
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Phil Lesh - Electric Bass, Vocals
Brent Mydland - Keyboards, Vocals
Bob Weir - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals


SBD (shnid=18862):

SBD > MR > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN [Sets 1 & 2]

[Updated lineage] SBD > MR > C (no dolby) > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN [Set 3]

EAC/SHN by Darryl Hinko (flyerfanatic)
Any questions contact me at: [email protected]
EAC in secure mode with proper offsets used to extract
SHNtool to join and confirm sector boundries
CDwav used to split tracks
Cool Edit used for all editing

AUD (shnid=8765):

Source: Nak 700s>Sony D-5>MC>PCM>ZA2>CDR
(Had been marked AUD(Wise Sony ECM 280?s)>Sony D-5>MC>PCM>ZA2>CDR)

Conversion:Playback on Nak Dragon>Sony PCM-R700>Hard Drive via ZA2>CDR>
EAC(secure)>Cool Edit Pro>CD WAV>SHN(seekable)

Taper: Jim Wise
Location: Lower Balcony, Front Rail

Conversion/Edit/Seeded to etree by Tim W. 4/8/02

EAC: Secure to extract all tracks @ 100% quality no errors
Cool Edit Pro: [See source comments]
CD WAV: Track splits
SHN: Via mkwact(seekable)

[SHNID=94269, transferred by Charlie Miller and recorded by Steve Rolfe, provides patches. See notes below.]

Thank you to Darryl Hinko for the SBD transfer,
to Jim Wise and Steve Rolfe for recording the show,
and to Tim W. and Charlie Miller for the AUD transfers.

Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC)
October 12, 2009

Set I (Acoustic)
d1t01 - Iko Iko
d1t02 - Dark Hollow                  
d1t03 - It Must Have Been the Roses  
d1t04 - On The Road Again            
d1t05 - Jack-A-Roe                  
d1t06 - Cassidy                    
d1t07 - China Doll                
d1t08 - Ripple

Set II (Electric)
d2t01 - Tuning
d2t02 - Jack Straw ->                
d2t03 - Sugaree                    
d2t04 - Little Red Rooster          
d2t05 - Brown Eyed Women            
d2t06 - Let It Grow ->                
d2t07 - Don't Ease Me In    

Set III (More Electric)
d2t08 - Tuning
d2t09 - Samson and Delilah          
d2t10 - Althea                      
d3t01 - Estimated Prophet ->          
d3t02 - He's Gone ->                  
d3t03 - Jam ->                        
d3t04 - Drums ->                    
d3t05 - Space ->                      
d3t06 - Not Fade Away ->              
d3t07 - Stella Blue ->                
d3t08 - Good Lovin'

d3t09 - Brokedown Palace        


(1) I preferred the original Hinko SBD (shnid=18862) over the "upgrade" (shnid=18896) because the compression aspect of the remaster degraded the audio, in my opinion.

(2) Jim Wise patched out of Steve Rolfe this night. They both ran Nak 700's. I preferred the Tim W. transfer of the Wise source (shnid=8765) over the Miller transfer of the Rolfe source (shnid=94269) for the following reasons:

1: While both sounded VERY similar, something about the sound of Tim's transfer appealed more to me - fuller sound? no EQ? not as "sharp" sounding? is my mind projecting these ideas? Probably. I'm still not quite sure if it is actually "better" sonically because, again, they sound very similar. I'm sure Miller and/or Tim could explain which is better because of their direct experience on their transfers.

2: While the above reason left my decision somewhat arbitrary, I did, however, notice instances of light tape flutter, or warbles, during different songs of Miller's source that were NOT present in Tim's source. From this I concluded that Wise's actual master tapes were of better quality, overall, than Rolfe's master tapes, and this solidified my decision to go with Tim's source. HOWEVER, there were some aspects of Miller's source that were definitively better than Tim's source: (a) Miller's had a couple audience sections, and a small portion of Drums, that were not present in Tim's transfer, which I spliced into the matrix (listed in note #3) (b) Good Lovin' and Brokedown Palace, for some reason, were of worse quality in Tim's source, especially Brokedown - the tape gets fluttery and has instances of miniscule dropouts. I was able to work through Good Lovin', but all of Brokedown is patched with Miller's source.  

(3) The AUD portion of the set 2 Tuning track is provided by shnid=94269, transferred by Charlie Miller and recorded by Steve Rolfe. It also provides the "Mexican Bobby" moment in set 3, an audience moment after Althea, a partial patch in Drums (a tape flip prevented a full patch), and all of Brokedown Palace.

(4) There were a few similar cuts and/or tape flips in both AUD sources, such as the small cut at the beginning of On the Road Again.

(5) I suspect a cassette generation in set 3, since sets 1 & 2 have less hiss and are much crispier. For this reason, I assume sets 1 & 2 are "SBD > MR > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN," and set 3 is "SBD > MR > C (no dolby) > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN."  

(6) Bobby's faux Mexican accent after Samson is downright awful.

    length     expanded size    cdr  WAVE problems  fmt   ratio  filename
     6:48.20       72018284 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t01.flac
     4:41.71       49735436 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t02.flac
     7:13.00       76381244 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t03.flac
     4:14.44       44909132 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t04.flac
     5:44.74       60855692 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t05.flac
     5:51.36       62001116 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t06.flac
     5:47.24       61267292 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t07.flac
     5:00.57       53054108 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d1t08.flac
     3:16.67       34732028 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t01.flac
     5:17.37       56005868 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t02.flac
     9:43.16      102878876 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t03.flac
     9:23.05       99325004 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t04.flac
     6:59.49       74026892 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t05.flac
     9:29.72      100540988 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t06.flac
     3:33.64       37723772 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t07.flac
     1:26.06       15184556 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t08.flac
     7:43.25       81732044 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t09.flac
    10:27.47      110713388 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d2t10.flac
    10:39.13      112750220 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t01.flac
    10:40.08      112914860 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t02.flac
     4:56.42       52313228 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t03.flac
    10:27.60      110743964 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t04.flac
     6:47.08       71813660 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t05.flac
     5:08.01       54333596 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t06.flac
    11:12.10      118564364 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t07.flac
     7:45.25       82084844 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t08.flac
     6:46.04       71627852 B   ---   --   ---xx  gd80-10-26d3t09.flac
   187:05.60     1980232308 B                            0.5538  (27 files)

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