|Checksums||shn-md5 , orig-shn-abgda , orig-shn-abgdb , st5|
|Disc Counts||0 / 3|
|Source Summary||SBD -> Dolby A Reel -> Dolby A decode -> DAT -> Sound Forge NR?-> CD-R; via Orf; disortion removed digitally (see notes); more info comparing Orf's NR to the WBOTB version; note the (possibly reextracted?) Orf version went to abgd 12/99 via D. Hollister, J. Sachs (md5s shown as "abgd", kindly provided by Eric Noon: note 2 versions- abgda, posted to abgd 1/19/00, has d2t2 sig different from Eric's abgdb, which he generated himself for the set- not sure which is correct)|
|Other Sources (comments)
direct copy of WTOTB tape... (1) flac16; Source: 7"... (2) flac16; Recording... (0) flac16; AUD.... (0) flac16; source: aud... (0) flac16; Partial 2nd... (0) flac16; aud... (0)
|11/08/2003||Dark Star is split between 2 sets?|
|12/03/2003||Chuck Frolio||Set break is after Me & My Uncle|
|04/20/2004||dave||this show can be fit on 2 80 min discs. simply end d1 with me and my uncle, 12 tracks. start d2 with lucky lager dance time, 12 tracks total as well.|
|04/20/2004||dave||"mickey wants to call this one 'the pump man' for reasons of his own", the band proceeds to break out what we now know "greatest story ever told". seems interesting that in his final show he would be naming songs...|
FYI, here's a footnote to the GSET lyrics from page 90 of "Box Of Rain, Lyrics:1965-1993" by Robert Hunter:
"(Also known as "Pumpman" and "Moses"-I wrote this to the rhythm of the pump in Mickey Hart's well. In the first line, Bob Weir, who gave the song its present complementary title, sings 'quasar' rather then 'guitar'."
NR done here, Leigh.
Now what do you say about this Dan Stephens one?
It seems he refers to yours.
|12/19/2004||dms||I'm not sure what the intent of your comment is, L/K. The only "reference" I make in my text file is simply stating that the NR that has been applied to this version has not been applied to mine. I would recommend that users download both and listen to whichever one they want based on their preference. No need for a "my version is better than yours" war.|
|12/19/2004||Lewis/Klitschko||I was just curious how Leigh's comments about NR in the 8/27 thread jibe with his usage here. It's of course done out of respect, I love everybody who brings the music to us, Charlie Miller most of all.|
Feedback removal is subjective - some people really want to re-live the moment. I like to keep my ears healthy. With regard to the whine removal, I was extremely careful to notch out only the whine and not any signal. Another version circulated which removed a huge chunk of the spectrum - avoid this one (see below links).
This is one of those cases where it is hard to argue against removing the interference. It's monochromatic and at a frequency which really makes it difficult to enjoy unless your hearing is already shot! However, a bad NR job is a bad NR job and it has been demonstrated over and over again that careless NR can make a recording sound worse not better.
For those interested, I have copious notes at the following links:
|12/21/2004||Diana||"8/27 thread" may refer to pub comments on an 8/27/72 fileset.|
|12/21/2004||dms||I still enjoy this show more without the interference removed, but... to each his own.|
Regarding 8/27/72 and this thread...
In a very brief nutshell, with regards to using consumer software to apply noise reduction to music, it goes like this:
Click removal GOOD
Monochromatic (single pitch) removal GOOD
Tape hiss removal BAD
The first two can be done without any significant (or even noticible if done right) effect on the music, and make the final recording a LOT better on the ears. It's supported by the mathematics, too.
The third nearly always leads to a lot of artifacts because tape hiss is "pinkish" noise containg energy all over the spectrum, just like music... and when you remove the hiss, you remove some of the music (some algorithms use noise gates etc. but none are perfect). The wisdom of the etree on this very subject can be found here:
I've already said too much with regards to 8/27/72. Check the above link for an interesting read.
|01/31/2011||charliemiller||The vault master reels are crystal clear clean recorded with no dolby and they have no issues that these reels have.|