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Grateful Dead 12/18/73
Curtis Hixon Convention Hall, Tampa, FL
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Entered by dr.unclear Other Sources
  • flac16; Recording Info: SBD -> Master...
  • further retracking and slight editing of 
  • SBD Reel master > cassette > DAT > CDR (unknown...  
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    Checksums shn-md5 , st5
    Disc Counts 0 / 3
    Media Size Not Listed
    Circ - Added Dates 9/30/02 - 11/25/2002
    Source Summary SBD Reel master > cassette > DAT > CDR (unknown gens) > EAC > CDWav retracking> SHN; Extraction, retracking, shortening by G.S. Hamilton (for real). Please use md5s to ID copies in circulation. Note d2 has 9 tracks; alternate shn set in circulation has 7 d2 tracks and is not really via Greg, but is apparently from another CD set. (This has same reel change in Wharf Rat (d3t04) @ 6:36.); note noise reduction notes in pub comments apparently pertain to alternate shn set only, no NR on this entry  
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    Grateful Dead
    12/18/73
    Curtis Hixon Conv Hall, Tampa FL

    Source: SBD
    Lineage: Reel master > cassette > DAT > CDR (unknown gens) > EAC > SHN
    Extraction and shortening by G.S. Hamilton

    http://db.etree.org/shn/12214

    Disc 1:
    1.  Tennessee Jed         8:30
    2.  Me And My Uncle         3:00
    3.  Don't Ease Me In         3:57
    4.  Looks Like Rain         7:38
    5.  They Love Each Other        6:01
    6.  Me And Bobby McGee 7:29
    7.  Brown Eyed Women 5:01
    8.  Beat It On Down The Line 3:40
    9.  Peggy-O     5:48
    10. El Paso     4:29
    11. Deal         5:06
    12. Jack Straw   5:07
    Total time:                    65:50

    Disc 2:
    Set 1, cont.
    1.  China Cat Sunflower > 8:47
    2.  I Know You Rider 4:55
    Set 2
    3.  The Promised Land 4:12
    4.  Bertha    5:57
    5.  Greatest Story Ever Told                 5:12
    6.  Row Jimmy       9:04
    7.  WRS Prelude >   1:27
    8.  WRS Part 1 >         4:53
    9.  Let It Grow         9:04
    Total time:                    53:35


    Disc 3:
    Set 2, cont.
    1.  Dark Star >        21:29
    2.  Drums >     1:59
    3.  Eyes Of The World >        13:53
    4.  Wharf Rat >         9:35
    5.  Sugar Magnolia        10:13
    Encore:
    6.Uncle John's Band 7:18
    Total time:                    64:30

    Known flaws:
    Reel change in Wharf Rat (d3t04) @ 6:36

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    flac16; Recording... (1) further retracking and... (3) SBD Reel master > cassette... (9)
    Date User Comment
    09/27/2002 Hamilton, Diana Note md5s are totally different from the alternate extraction, not-retracked version that has been incorrectly attributed to Greg.
    09/30/2002 Diana Hamilton The "skip" in Wharf Rat turns out to be a closely-edited reel change.
    11/21/2002 jay ashley I found this particular lineage to have Digital Noise Reduction applied. The artifacts can be clearly heard between tracks by increasing the high end. The fact that it has DNR applied does not bother me as much as the fact that it is not disclosed anywhere in the text file.
    jay
    11/22/2002 Deadhead This version does not have any noise reduction. This other version which circulates with the same text file does have nr applied and sounds awful with high end phasing artifacts. The only way to tell these different seeds apart is by comparing md5s. Compared to the other version this seed is the better sounding of the two.
    11/22/2002 jay ashley Yes,this source DOES have Digital Noise Reduction applied. It may not be severe, but the artifacts left as a result can be heard if you know what to listen for. In addition, noise reduction can be seen in a frequency analyzer. When one can hear DNR artifacts, that means music was removed, not just tape hiss.
    jay
    11/23/2002 jay ashley I think I understand your explination about the md5s. I will see if I can find the other shnset and test them. So far, I have been sent two different sources for this show and both have DNR applied. Hopefully, the one you refer to will be clean.
    Thanks,
    jay
    11/23/2002 jay ashley I found the actual G. Hamilton shnset on TOL and tested them and I am Happy to report that this version DOES NOT HAVE DNR applied. This is made very confusing by the duplicate text files. May I suggest that someone ask the seeder of the alternate shnset to submit a new (different) text file that reflects the fact that Digital Noise Reduction was applied. At least that would help differentiate the two at a glance. Thank you to all who helped clarify the confusion.
    jay
    11/25/2002 Hamilton, Diana Jay, I added some clarifying (I hope) comments re the NR to each entry. The best we'll ever do on the confusing txt file is to update the bad one here, which I've done. The horse is out of the barn at all the sites where that seed already may be. Given theat the anonymous original seeder was irresponsible enough as it is, I doubt we'll see any updates posted from him.
    11/26/2002 Tyler I have a low-gen, no SHN copy of this show: no more than 3 DAT gens and my disks are CD masters made on DAP1>HHb CDR800.

    I will gladly provide clean EAC>SHN seeds of this show if it would be helpful - it's a good show and should circulate without headaches. However the last thing I want to do is add more confusion.

    Is it worth doing? If so, and you can host the SHNs, email me.
    11/27/2002 Diana Hamilton Hey Tyler- "clean" sounds good, go for it! The only thing that would make it confusing is if you wanted to call yourself G.S. Hamilton. ;)
    12/07/2003 Steve Gilbert Does anyone still have access to the DAT tape of this? (ie: the MSR>C>DAT copy). It would be wonderful to have this retransferred for 80 minute CDs...you could get the whole WRS through the end and not have to cut the Let It Grow > Dark Star transition. I'll do the transfer if anyone wants to send me the DAT :-) I think this is one of the most under-rated shows ever...not quite as good as the next night, but lord have mercy...so good!
    03/18/2005 ajw hard to believe it hasn't been mentioned before, but...

    I Know You Rider / @ 2:54

    Row Jimmy skips @ 8:42>8:43
    04/29/2006 Ryan The cut in China Cat Sunflower, as mentioned above, is brutal. It happens right at the 'on a northbound traaa (cut)'.

    Ouch.
    04/29/2006 Ryan Oops, make that ^^ 'I Know You Rider'.
    02/18/2009 charlie miller There's a master reel flip in Let It Grow.
    02/18/2009 charlie miller There is a very short cut at the end of dark star.