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Phish 12/07/97
Ervin J. Nutter Center, Dayton, OH
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Source # 12498 Other Sources
Entered by Ben Mohr
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Disc Counts 2 / 2
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10/15/02
10/17/2002
Source Summary SBD > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN 
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PHiSH - 12/7/97
Ervin J. Nutter Center - Dayton, OH

Source: SBD>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN


Disc 1 (72:35.43)
Set 1
01. AC/DC Bag-> 04:35.64
02. Psycho Killer-># 07:08.33
03. Jesus Left Chicago 10:39.23
04. My Mind's Got A Mind Of Its Own 02:26.58
05. It's Ice> 06:39.61
06. Swept Away>Steep> 03:03.38
07. It's Ice 01:54.35
08. Theme From The Bottom 10:42.41
09. Tube->* 12:46.11
10. Slave To The Traffic Light 12:38.54

Disc 2 (69:00.13)
Set 2
01. Timber Ho 09:29.54
02. Wolfman's Brother-> 07:34.26
03. Boogie On Reggae Woman 07:36.47
04. Reba 14:03.12
05. Guyute 10:16.40
06. Possum 14:57.59
Encore:
07. A Day In The Life 05:02.00

#first by Phish
*With extended stop/start jam

*With extended stop/start jam

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66adaa1256c17cf1892e574be69db187 *ph1997-12-07d1t01.shn
ab21714df1c0e6edfdd2e1ab1cfbb0f1 *ph1997-12-07d1t02.shn
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7aca1ce0ee3a4c075f01a09361be69b3 *ph1997-12-07d1t04.shn
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64a681b2d4281764b3ba4afb823697a3 *ph1997-12-07d2t03.shn
9dab2ec6652c9fbc260af986a3fb3825 *ph1997-12-07d2t04.shn
aa435c112a1961522ec0db47508a17f9 *ph1997-12-07d2t05.shn
bd6276a6828288da86cf37f9e546583a *ph1997-12-07d2t06.shn
805c407de2ad6195684961e9d15c1da3 *ph1997-12-07d2t07.shn

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Schoeps CMC64/mk41 >... (0) Neumann U87 > Sonosax SX-M2... (0) DFOB Neumann KM140 > Beyer... (8) SBD + (Neumann U87 >... (6) LivePhish SHN download;... (0) AKG 391 > DAT (@ 48 kHz);... (0) B&K 4011s > Neumann BS48i-2... (0) flac16; Schoeps... (0) flac16; Neumann... (1) flac16 Neumann U87s... (0) flac16, 48kHz; Audio... (0)
Date User Comment
10/16/2002 btpfob please, another FOB mistaken for SBD?
10/16/2002 Paul Hofferkamp Nope, this is a FULL-FLEDGED soundboard! Bravo to whoever released this gem (except you missed the "best show of '97" by one day: 12/6)
10/16/2002 Grimjack Definitely a soundboard. Sounds like its fully digital as well. Beautiful mix and a great show taboot. Now....where's set II of 12/6/97? :)
10/16/2002 Fikus What appears to be a click on d01 track 05 at ~2:33 is from the PA...compare to FOB KM140 where the exact same "click" happens at 2:34 [therefore the click is not a transfer error!]
10/17/2002 Mike would anyone like to share this on shnapster or furthur?
10/17/2002 TWATTS Rumour on PCP is that this is a band leak... Thanks PH!
10/17/2002 Dan Stephens I go to school at Wright State University, and see the Nutter Center every day. Technically, the Nutter Center is in Fairborn, Ohio ... not Dayton.
10/17/2002 ... & yet the ticket stub says Dayton.
10/17/2002 funkcactus this is now on shapster, not sure about further, but is such a perfect seed, thanks to those responsible :)
10/17/2002 macdaddy it is up on FurthurNET, too >>
10/17/2002 Mr.Marmar This HAS to be a band leak...as is just about every SBD from '92 on...The shocking thing is that appears to be no cassette generation on this one, as is the case with most of the leaked stuff...This shn set has very beautiful sound, you can hear just the right ammount of crowd and the levels are nice and HOT, but not too hot like the Rochester show from just 4 days later (yet another band released SBD I bet)...Great show to be leaked :-)
10/17/2002 I would suspect a cass generation... sounds similar to 12/11/97 in that respect
10/18/2002 Mr.Marmar Definately no Cass gen on this baby...Also, anyone notice that in the middle of tube you can hear Fish ask if Trey wants to start the jam back up...have noticed some "pops" here and there that may be transfer related, haven't had the chance to zero in on em yet to check em out on my DAW...Still a darn good recording....
10/19/2002 Admin John Please keep comments on the topic of quality of seed (ie tracking issues, pops, clicks, or comments on its excellence) All other comments should be taken to the message board or elsewhere. Thank you.
10/23/2002 JB Marmar,

I've noticed some pops as well, mostly in the first set. There are a couple in JJLC, and one or two in Ice and Tube. I think most seem to be isolated to the right channel. Regardless, even if the pops are not transfer-related and can't be corrected, a fine show and a spectacular recording.
10/24/2002 UserError I'm not too familiar with Phish's sound, but there seems to be some feedback starting in d1t1 @ 4:07, and fading off at around d1t2 @ 4:03. In the beginning it sounds pretty bad, but after about 10 seconds it gets rather low. Can somebody else confirm this?
10/24/2002 no pops and or problems with mine
10/25/2002 scottz can someone who has given this a critical listen please post timings for any odd sounds such as pops or clicks - we can soundforge them out!
11/03/2002 scott z disc one odd spots:
d1t5 - 2:33, d1t7 - :19, d1t9 - 7:34, d1t10 - 2:03, 8:355 and 11:10.

Odd looking waveforms at those points.. don't look like typical extraction errors....?
11/03/2002 Fikus Scott, check against an AUD source if you have one...i found one of the errors to be in the PA because it checked on both the aud as well as the sbd....
01/31/2003 Now Untradeable? Officially Released LivePhish http://www.livephish.com/show.asp?show=274
Time for Mr. Shapiro to revise the trading policy to account for leaked soundboards?
02/04/2003 Mike Is there any difference in sound between this seed and the released SBD's from Livephish.com?
03/24/2003 twatts Until Kevin at PH resolves the problem with band leak SBDs vs. the new Live Phish stuff, perhaps we should forego the trading of this particular source in favoring of BUYING this one: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=16162

I also think this ought to apply to the UberSeed#1: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=12669

Terry








06/28/2003 billreilly I know I'm splitting hairs on this one but isn't the LivePhish release be a superior seed to this (no cdr > eac)? Since this seed has a CDR > EAC lineage, technically wouldn't it still be tradeable?
06/29/2003 ... yeah, but...
Considering there are maybe 1,000 tradeable shows vs.
40 + non-tradeable, maybe it would be a jesture of respect
to the band to just go ahead and pay for this one.
Or not.
02/06/2005 phishboyd true, but the band policy now allows for recordings of officially released material to now be traded, and i think this qualifies regardless of the audio source...

-b