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Grateful Dead 06/25/83
St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN
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Source Summary flac16 44.1khz Master: AUD MC Beyer M201's X-Y 7'up > Sony TCD5M no dolby TDK MA-R90 x 2 ++ First Gen patch: [Same mics]Marantz Superscope PMD420| Maxell UDXLII 90 Cassette copy: Sony TCD5M> Denon DR330 Location: ~40 feet from stage, 25 feet LOC (in front of Phil) Transfer: Nakamichi CR-5A (24/96) > Tascam DR680|SD > i7Windows7 Audacity > cdwav editor > TLH flac level 8 Mastered: Executive Crew Kyle Holbrook Tom Pinney Transferred: Kyle Holbrook 
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Grateful Dead
Date 1983-06-25
St. Paul Civic Center
St. Paul MN

- Set I -
d1t01 - tuning
d1t02 - Jack Straw           /
d1t03 - They Love Each Other
d1t04 - Cassidy
d1t05 - West L.A. Fadeaway  //
d1t06 - My Brother Esau
d1t07 - Big Railroad Blues
d1t08 - Lazy Lightning -> Supplication
d1t09 - Might As Well

- Set II -
d2t01 - Touch Of Grey ->
d2t02 - Samson & Delilah      /
d2t03 - Ship of Fools
d2t04 - Man Smart (Women are Smarter)
d2t05 - Uncle John's Band ->      //
d2t06 - Drums ->
d2t07 - Space ->
d2t08 - Throwing Stones ->
d2t09 - Black Peter ->
d2t10 - Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad ->
d2t11 - One More Saturday Night
d2t12 - encore It's All Over Now Baby Blue  ++

Recording Notes
/ paused between songs
// tape flip
Master: AUD MC Beyer M201's X-Y 7'up > Sony TCD5M no dolby
        TDK MA-R90 x 2
++ First Gen patch: [Same mics]Marantz Superscope PMD420| Maxell UDXLII 90
Cassette copy: Sony TCD5M> Denon DR330
Location: ~40 feet from stage, 25 feet LOC (in front of Phil)
Transfer: Nakamichi CR-5A (24/96) > Tascam DR680|SD > i7Windows7
          Audacity > cdwav editor > TLH flac level 8
          This is 16 bit copy
Mastered: Executive Crew Kyle Holbrook Tom Pinney
Transferred: Kyle Holbrook
The tour story goes something like Tom decided he was going to drive to Madison Wisconsin then St Paul MN the night after the Harrisburg show (the 23rd). In my haste, I said I would go with him. He originally wanted to go all the way through the tour into Ames Iowa but I was not able to go that far; we decided to make that choice later.We set out in Tom's Toyota Corolla with Maine Plates. This was my first long trip experiencing the odd, understated yet worldly character trait which comes along with being a resident of the State of Maine thus allowing one to travel across the country in Maine plates. In so many places Tom would have the discussion about his town and how good a time this person had as a tourist in Maine. All in fun.
We thought about trying to make it to Madison Wisconsin for June 24th, but leaving as late as we did on the 24th and realizing how far it would be to St Paul, we decided just to aim for the Twin Cities Minnesota. Tom had made these stickers with the Robert Hunter line "Every Silver Lining has a touch of Grey" made. Two colors, yellow and silver. they were the size of the PAID stickers at grocery stores. We plastered those things at every rest stop and gas station we stopped at along the way. at one point, after the show in Chicago, we were driving down the road and these girls pulled up beside us and we somehow transferred about 100 stickers from window to window! This was my first time in St. Paul and I recall the glass walkways over the streets in the downtown area near the civic center.

This was still in the day when tickets rarely sold out and we were in luck to get two floor tickets off to one side. I recall sitting in front of the Civic Center waiting for the box office to open, then hanging on the green space around the building most of the day. Once entering the venue it was a classic 60's era auditorium, maybe 8,000 capacity. Tom decided to take seats closer to the center in our row, thinking we could trade the owners with ours only 8-10 seats at the other end of the aisle. When the ticket holders showed up, there were about eight of them, boy-girl, boy-girl. They were not too enthusiastic but did allow us to keep the stand in that seat. Tom went up and down the row handing out the stickers to all of them and making sure they were comfortable with our gear being there. This was the first time seeing the Dead for all of them, and letting them know things such as the song titles was appreciated. By set break, they were all asking questions about the music and such as well as us having to explain the whole taping deal which typically went: "Well the band allows it but the security of the venue still don't allow it, so we sneak it in but the crew tells security not to mess with us. if you give us your address, we can try to send you some tapes.

As far as musical highlights; somewhere about Cassidy the intensity of the jamming picked up and the boys were in a groove. BY the time they hit Brother Esau they were dialed in and the Lazy Lightning > Supplication is a beautiful part of the set. Tom was thinking they would play a bunch of cowboy tunes in the middle of the country where we were but they only did Big RR blues which was a nice rendition. All in all the whole show was classic Grateful Dead of this early 1980's era. Nothing terribly special setlist wise, but some real sweet interplay between Jerry and Bob in the Sampson>Ship>Women's>UJB sequence. To my ears Brent was really hitting it and starting to build his repertoire of lengthy, foundational organ chords which he would incorporate into the GD songbook until his death. The Baby Blue was a fitting encore, Mr. Zimmerman being from the Twin Cities and all.

This recording is one of the best examples of how the Beyer hypercardiods crossed in X-Y close to the stage (typically within 40-60 feet from the speakers) could shine. Although not as ubiquitous as the Sennhieser 421 or 441 or the Nakamichi shotguns these Beyers made some nice recordings. In fact, we started to gain a bit of a following by patchers on the tour and by the late summer West Coast tour we would have several more members added to the Executive Crew. Two key players will be met at the next destination in Chicago Illinois at a Drury Inn. Tom and I left St. Paul that night and slept a bit in a Minnesota rest area until sun up then made our way toward Chicago.

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