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Phish 12/05/97
Convocation Center, Cleveland, OH
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Source # 15663 Other Sources
Entered by Ben Mohr
Checksums d1 , d2 , d3
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
<3/6/03
03/06/2003
Source Summary Schoeps CMC6/mk41 > PSP-2 > SBM-1 > DA-P1; CDR > WAV > SHN; SHN conversion by Mike Woellert 
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Phish

Cleveland State Convocation Center-Cleveland, OH

12/5/97





Source:  Schoeps CMC6/MK41 > PSP-2 > SBM-1 > DA-P1

Transfer: Unknown at this point





CD > WAV > SHN:  Mike Woellert ([email protected])

Another gem from the famous fall '97 tour.  This show sounds sweet, and I would love to see

this get spread around.  This is my first seed to etree, so please tell me if there are

any problems.

Enjoy!!!  Etree rocks!





Disc 1:

1. Ghost

2. Wilson

3. Funky Bitch

4. Black-Eyed Katy

5. Sparkle

6. Runaway Jim->

7. My Friend, My Friend

8. Ginseng Sullivan



Disc 2

1. Limb by Limb

2. Character Zero

3. Stash

4. Bouncin' Around the Room

5. Julius

6. Slave to the Traffic Light



Disc 3

1. Lizards

2. Loving Cup

3. Chalkdust Torture

Encore:

4. Bold as Love
Show Checksums
d1
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31044cbee2b36671d3c3a48c2c360368 *ph1997-12-05d1t2.shn
66507f6cddd5dd5e77cbe95d05ad1b62 *ph1997-12-05d1t3.shn
e25bf32e7d8220012efb70fde6cdc121 *ph1997-12-05d1t4.shn
16b8cd63d95059a8d52f1b73770126c3 *ph1997-12-05d1t5.shn
9773d21ad8ee541a98a1f6d741f4bca8 *ph1997-12-05d1t6.shn
4a8c8e3415cd994f7b7d1117f4d37f8b *ph1997-12-05d1t7.shn
8d7a6ca0390d4c0876b9626645a9077b *ph1997-12-05d1t8.shn
d2
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15793b7604630a88a66e467bf6cb8670 *ph1997-12-05d2t3.shn
8e836375a8f62194204cb6e0d26ace78 *ph1997-12-05d2t4.shn
69c68d7221d0d17555cabef893411c8e *ph1997-12-05d2t5.shn
bd5476aeec14160be61873727e96439a *ph1997-12-05d2t6.shn
d3
1980b23273dc0249aeb4208a19f2c523 *ph1997-12-05d3t1.shn
795e5b94f633051d647f26ed057fd61e *ph1997-12-05d3t2.shn
678a6550af8ed192ec2313e6b5248277 *ph1997-12-05d3t3.shn
3801bd4b3545c4c4d624bc50479f44c6 *ph1997-12-05d3t4.shn

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Date User Comment
03/06/2003 twatts http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2460

Is this a CDR>EAC>SHN of the above source? If so, why did you reseed this show? If it is different, what is the difference?

A problem arises when there are two different SHN sets of the same source - causes confusion. Please read and follow the ETREE seeding guidelines: http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines

"Before you seed a show, please consider this question: Is this the best possible source?"

Terry


03/07/2003 Bix this one didn't just come out. I've had it for the better part of at least 8 months or so. I noticed they looked similar too. I sent an email to the one who seeded this version and asked him to put up the md5's for those who have his copy. So, a big THANK YOU to him.
03/09/2003 mozambique i was the one who put the source info and md5s up on etree. there are similarities to the two sources, there are definate differences, two different names, subtle differences in the source, different programs used, linage. i dont know why someone would make such changes to the same source. as far as the sound quality, ive listened to this several times before i put it up. no errors as i can tell. id say the quality of sound is above the average etree source. if the average were a C and the best source was rated an A+, id call this a B+. i however am not mike woellert, i recieved this source around summer of 2001.
03/15/2003 Mike Woellert I was the original seeder. At the time, there wasn't a SHN in circualation for the show. This seed did not just come out, as the date says. It's probably been out there for at least a few years. I think a direct DAT > SHN source made it out just before this one. At the time, this was the only source. So I EAC'd and SHN'd it. Actually, I wouldn't even mind if this was taken out of the SHNs in Circ page. The only difference between this one, and http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2460, is that DAE is performed in mine. So, like I said, this has been out for at least a few years. I've seeded a few shows since then, and if there was already a DAT > SHN at the time, I certainly wouldn't have seeded a CD > EAC > SHN seed. Again, I wouldn't mind if this was taken out of the SHN in Circ. page.
03/15/2003 Matt Vernon The shns-in-circ page I believe isn't supposed to list only the BEST shn's in circulation, but hopefully ALL shn's in circulation. Then comments can be made about source quality etc to help identify the pros/cons of the various seeds. Thanks for posting the info about the history of how this came about, but it should be left on the shns-in-circ page because it is a circulated shn.