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Grateful Dead 11/17/72
Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS
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Source # 15982 Other Sources
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5 , st5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
Source Summary Master Soundboard Reel > Cassette > DAT > CR > EAC > WAV > SHN; with patches Master Audience Cassette > ? > Cassette > CD; Upgrade to existing SHN copy  
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Grateful Dead
Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS
November 17, 1972

Master Soundboard Reel > Cassette > DAT > CR > EAC > WAV > SHN
with patches Master Audience Cassette > ? > Cassette > CD

Disc One [63:27]
1 Promised Land [3:03]
2 Sugaree [6:54]
3 Me & My Uncle [3:26]
4 Tennessee Jed [7:27]
5 Black-Throated Wind [7:05]
6 Bird Song [11:05]
7 Jack//Straw [3:30]
8 Box of Rain [4:52]
9 Don't Ease Me In [3:03]
10 Beat It on Down the Line [3:35]
11 Brown-Eyed Women [4:56]
12 Big River [4:25]

Disc Two [48:16]
1 China Cat Sunflower [7:25] >
2 I Know You Rider [5:30]
3 Round and Round [3:44]
4 /Casey Jones* [6:27]
5 Cumberland Blues [6:34]
6 El Paso [4:20]
7 He's Gone [14:11]

DISC THREE [57:27]
1 Truckin' > [9:56]
2 The Other One**> [20:31]
3 Brokedown Palace > [6:00]
4 /Sugar Magnolia [8:48]
5 Uncle John's Band [7:58]
6 Johnny B Goode [4:12]

* 0:00 - 0:22 patched with MAC>?>C>CD source
** 16:54 - 17:21 patched with MAC>?>C>CD source

The very beginnings of Casey Jones and Sugar Magnolia are cut

NOTE: This source sounds slightly less hissy than the one in general circulation with the same noted lineage.  I would guess that source has multiple cassette generations.  

No audience tape for Jack Straw circulates, so that cut remains.

Patches and SHN encoding by Jack Warner ([email protected]) 3/13/03
Special thanks to Robert Goetz and David Minches
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Date User Comment
12/07/2003 Lewis/Klitschko This is a show that needed to be patched, but I gotta say that the unpatched soundboard very prevalent on Furthur is MUCH less hissy/cloudy and more clear than this patched soundboard. Maybe it's from the same material with the levels different, but if the kind gentlemen who worked on this project would compare the two, I think they would find the source on Furthur is the one that needs to be patched. It's actually one of the best soundboards I have from '72. I love it, it's crystal clear, and a patch job on that is #1 on my wish list. I can't be the only one who feels this way.
02/07/2004 Lewis/Klitschko Incidentally, I did it myself. Look for the improved version to be vined at
02/08/2004 cea I think that the source that is circulating on furthur actually has more tape noise than this seed but the crispness of the music and especially the vocals is also alot better. Maybe this seed has had NR applied.
02/08/2004 Lewis/Klitschko You could very well be correct. Certainly there are a few other shows that sacrifice crispness for less hiss, or a higher hiss level for better clarity. I'm thinking of the alternative sources of 10/25/73, 10/30/73, and 11/17/73. It may also be the levels or some such technical thing, and nothing to do with amount of cassette generations. In the case of 10/25, 10/30, and 11/17/72 (if that's the case with this one), I prefer the extra-crispiness. I prefer the 11/17/73 less-hiss version (supposedly muddier), so I guess it's a case by case basis.

The Further 11/17/72 just sounds so much better, and that's why I embarked on this project.
02/08/2004 Jack Warner See, to me, that one sounded quite a bit worse, so to each his own. Make sure to put your version up on etree so we can check it out.

In this case, I think the difference is two separate cass>DAT transfers (from the same cassette source); one made before Dick's passing, the other afterwards (I think).
02/08/2004 Lewis/Klitschko Well, I've sent it along to a capable fellow who will soon vine it at

I can't believe you think the prior source is better, but whattyagonna do. To me the difference in quality is startling and immediate, but I've asked this fellow to vine it only if he feels this meets the standards.

The two patches are on separate tracks because I did this before I learned the "append" feature, but I'm especially proud of the timing I got on the "Other One" patch.

Thanks to you, of course, for the source material.
03/03/2004 Lewis/Klitschko Will Smith: The vine is here!

*plays the bongo drums*

Will Smith: The vine is here!

*plays the bongo drums*

George Foreman:

*looks over and scowls*

Will Smith: The vine is here!;act=ST;f=2;t=12519
02/14/2006 Charlie Miller This source has too much NR applied to