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Phish 07/30/03
Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
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Source # 19640 Other Sources
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums shn-md5 , st5 , ffp-fixed
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
09/28/03
09/30/2003
Source Summary FOB Schoeps mk4v (ORTF) > kcy > VMS5u > mod. SBM-1 > M1; DA-P1 > Echo MIA > Soundforge 6.0 > CDWav > mkwACT > SHN 
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Phish
Tweeter Center
Camden, NJ
July 30, 2003 (Wednesday)

Source: Schoeps mk4v (ortf) > kcy actives > VMS_5u > modSBM1 > M1
(FOB - sec 102, Row Q, seat 15)
transfer: DAP1 > Echo MIA > Soundforge6.0 > CDWave > MKWact

DISC 1:
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Set 1
1. My Friend, My Friend
2. Lonesome Cowboy Bill
3. Scents and Subtle Sounds
4. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere
5. Spock's Brain
6. Chalk Dust Torture
7. On Your Way Down

DISC 2:
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1. Fast Enough For You >
2. Taste
Set 2
3. Twist
4. Bug
5. You Enjoy Myself >
6. Vocal Jam

DISC 3:
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1. Walls of the Cave
Encore:
2. Secret Smile


Show Checksums
shn-md5
e8ad2566dd011d8adde6c87ad6d0a74a *ph03-07-30d1t01.shn
f94a994839eef8ae9b4ddf74678977dc *ph03-07-30d1t02.shn
a60e8028e0483a505ce059d456ee738b *ph03-07-30d1t03.shn
497544e5cfb577e90d1ab2ecff21a9d1 *ph03-07-30d1t04.shn
cce4e26d049eaad8a39399ce2673f6fb *ph03-07-30d1t05.shn
a5e8f6e9315ac32dc3e355383b260257 *ph03-07-30d1t06.shn
4eced73e5e94b6f82f2c03ca07a05b5d *ph03-07-30d1t07.shn
4f358c18cf702abd9ae0490beaa77d47 *ph03-07-30d2t01.shn
0b28d50d0fe4369dfe22127371068a14 *ph03-07-30d2t02.shn
c0c6a18e1a1dcf1d216036862b27441c *ph03-07-30d2t03.shn
53efd59937e6d58a3eb35e553c724c02 *ph03-07-30d2t04.shn
f0040a7e914da3a2f4279a7c425ef670 *ph03-07-30d2t05.shn
abdff8d8160d7a4daf24c825552062b2 *ph03-07-30d2t06.shn
c106cabb24b8086db1493f8c9af7838f *ph03-07-30d3t01.shn
7930b97b5a6d3ae29c13e3c5175aee64 *ph03-07-30d3t02.shn
st5
180a7a80473d1ea503e437c94afbbdd7 [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t01.shn
647a11fcee95fedaf4241f60d18f6082 [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t02.shn
96ffa0498332dfcbabb15d01efa64eea [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t03.shn
51e8428da61824ac86fb1c19a2589e41 [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t04.shn
7a7fe8970f8a8ff23db6a0a5aac8b626 [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t05.shn
c430096f699abd82af4e53a09b41da69 [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t06.shn
b0de43a442f607b71b7e7e83e49e251a [shntool] ph03-07-30d1t07.shn
b3aa733b85f679481c4f8a087b9a8855 [shntool] ph03-07-30d2t01.shn
c614ce316e68ae965f8740661b49c58f [shntool] ph03-07-30d2t02.shn
948256b300a5000dde9f54a46c0a2fb3 [shntool] ph03-07-30d2t03.shn
688967e1a9afb7a4a3a90b5783e884f9 [shntool] ph03-07-30d2t04.shn
69f9d3b903b3a7e8c471a8c85396ab8d [shntool] ph03-07-30d2t05.shn
f3c5c50d78559330b49ae93b23a9e71c [shntool] ph03-07-30d2t06.shn
2f175ac95b5ed44e3d401779c1cd13f5 [shntool] ph03-07-30d3t01.shn
09dcfc38dec1a0d6e67f1f50b7b883c4 [shntool] ph03-07-30d3t02.shn
ffp-fixed
ph03-07-30d1t01.flac:180a7a80473d1ea503e437c94afbbdd7
ph03-07-30d1t02.flac:647a11fcee95fedaf4241f60d18f6082
ph03-07-30d1t03.flac:96ffa0498332dfcbabb15d01efa64eea
ph03-07-30d1t04.flac:51e8428da61824ac86fb1c19a2589e41
ph03-07-30d1t05.flac:7a7fe8970f8a8ff23db6a0a5aac8b626
ph03-07-30d1t06-fixed.flac:c430096f699abd82af4e53a09b41da69
ph03-07-30d1t07.flac:b0de43a442f607b71b7e7e83e49e251a
ph03-07-30d2t01.flac:b3aa733b85f679481c4f8a087b9a8855
ph03-07-30d2t02.flac:ce226e7b8c4e4a00fddb1f513341a2f7
ph03-07-30d2t03.flac:4ec9d2ca43587731f181ac9f2cda55fa
ph03-07-30d2t04.flac:13b9443dda142f055621a2d158cc1ca5
ph03-07-30d2t05.flac:49b3e4f46a04bf673155103b22ce2342
ph03-07-30d2t06.flac:0572ab6b23b8d7dc29dc9318db6fc9d2
ph03-07-30d3t01.flac:d3a91573b9a5dcf94037faee1894e5d6
ph03-07-30d3t02.flac:1b17c7d08a35a68359b2e694e6470c9e

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Schoeps M222/mk41 (DIN) >... (0) AT4051a (ORTF, 9' high) >... (0) LivePhish FLAC download;... (0) FOB Schoeps mk4v (ORTF) >... (1) Schoeps MK5(cards/DIN) >... (0) flac16 44.1kHz OTS;... (0) flac16 48kHz OTS;... (0)
Date User Comment
10/03/2003 Rob Berg My copy of this show has been converted to FLAC. Here is the fingerprint:

ph03-07-30d1t01.flac:180a7a80473d1ea503e437c94afbbdd7
ph03-07-30d1t02.flac:647a11fcee95fedaf4241f60d18f6082
ph03-07-30d1t03.flac:96ffa0498332dfcbabb15d01efa64eea
ph03-07-30d1t04.flac:51e8428da61824ac86fb1c19a2589e41
ph03-07-30d1t05.flac:7a7fe8970f8a8ff23db6a0a5aac8b626
ph03-07-30d1t06-fixed.flac:c430096f699abd82af4e53a09b41da69
ph03-07-30d1t07.flac:b0de43a442f607b71b7e7e83e49e251a
ph03-07-30d2t01.flac:b3aa733b85f679481c4f8a087b9a8855
ph03-07-30d2t02.flac:ce226e7b8c4e4a00fddb1f513341a2f7
ph03-07-30d2t03.flac:4ec9d2ca43587731f181ac9f2cda55fa
ph03-07-30d2t04.flac:13b9443dda142f055621a2d158cc1ca5
ph03-07-30d2t05.flac:49b3e4f46a04bf673155103b22ce2342
ph03-07-30d2t06.flac:0572ab6b23b8d7dc29dc9318db6fc9d2
ph03-07-30d3t01.flac:d3a91573b9a5dcf94037faee1894e5d6
ph03-07-30d3t02.flac:1b17c7d08a35a68359b2e694e6470c9e
10/06/2003 allen there are some very noticable level adjustments in this seed from Chalkdust through Taste. There is a patched version using a second mk4v FOB source. the patchwork was done per request of the taper. i will submit md5s and txt.
01/27/2018 mvernon
There are 4 file sets circulating related to shnids #19640 and #19821

Source 1: #19640 - the original source
Source 2: a source noted by Rob Berg in a comment for #19640, not in the database
Source 3: #19821 - a fixed version of #19640 in the database
Source 4: a source not in database which also claims to be a fixed version of #19640

All 4 sources have same checksums for set 2. They only differ for set 1 checksums.

Source 2 - using st5’s created from source 1 we can show that Source 2 noted by Rob Berg (who listed flac ffp’s in his comment) differs in waveform only in 2 tracks:

ph03-07-30d1t06-fixed CDT
ph03-07-30d2t02.flac Taste

Source 2 appears to be more akin to a shntool header and sbefix. d2t2 differs by 1104 bytes which is the amount the original track was sector misaligned according to shntool. Source 1 d1t6 also had a large header 4096 bytes compared to 44 bytes for source 2. Listening to source 2 it does not appear to be different from source 1.

This comment was left for #19640 (source 1) by allen (aka guy4get)

“there are some very noticable level adjustments in this seed from Chalkdust through Taste. There is a patched version using a second mk4v FOB source. the patchwork was done per request of the taper. i will submit md5s and txt.”

Source 3 : shnid #19821 in db has this note in it’s info file:

“some patchwork: chalkdust->taste was mixed/patched with a second mk4v FOB source to try and
fix some very noticable level adjustments. Handywork done once again by Matt "Shakedown".
the resident etree IRC mixmaster!!”

From the source 3 info file note I was expecting perhaps at most only tracks from CDT (d1t6) to Taste (d2t2) inclusive to show changes.
But every track in set 1 for #19821 has different checksums compared to #19640.

Allen (aka guy4get) is linked to #19821 noting explicitly it is the fixed version of #19640.
So #19821 is assumed to be the fixed version using a patched source as foretold by Allen.

Source 4 is a fixed version not in the database. It has this comment in its info file:

“fix notes: there are level adjustments in both Chalkdust Torture and Taste, I did my best to fix these with the vector volume tool in WaveLab's Audio Montage function, but it's certainly not perfect. The most noteable flaw is at the beginning of Taste. -shakedown”

The md5’s for this source differ in all set 1 checksums from both the original #19640 and from the fix #19821.

From the fix notes I again expected only CDT and Taste tracks to be changed, not all of set 1.
But all set 1 tracks have changes from original in timing as shown in the shntool output.

- - - Source 1 set 1 shntool timings

length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
6:41.11 70762316 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.6223 ph03-07-30d1t01.shn
4:13.11 44655116 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5435 ph03-07-30d1t02.shn
30:36.14 323903372 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5269 ph03-07-30d1t03.shn
5:29.51 58155596 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5508 ph03-07-30d1t04.shn
5:47.40 61304924 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5966 ph03-07-30d1t05.shn
10:22.10 109748416 B --- h- ---xx shn 0.6392 ph03-07-30d1t06.shn
7:52.05 83272604 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5344 ph03-07-30d1t07.shn
6:56.06 73396556 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5420 ph03-07-30d2t01.shn
10:23.52 110020652 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.5520 ph03-07-30d2t02.shn
88:21.50 935219552 B 0.5589 (9 files)

- - - - Source 2 set 1 shntool timings
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
6:41.11 70762316 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5886 ph03-07-30d1t01.flac
4:13.11 44655116 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5168 ph03-07-30d1t02.flac
30:36.14 323903372 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5004 ph03-07-30d1t03.flac
5:29.51 58155596 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5278 ph03-07-30d1t04.flac
5:47.40 61304924 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5633 ph03-07-30d1t05.flac
10:22.10 109744364 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.6038 ph03-07-30d1t06-fixed.flac
7:52.05 83272604 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5082 ph03-07-30d1t07.flac
6:56.06 73396556 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5152 ph03-07-30d2t01.flac
10:23.52 110019548 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5269 ph03-07-30d2t02.flac
88:21.50 935214396 B 0.5308 (9 files)

- - - - Source 4 set 1 shntool timings

length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
6:42.01 70915196 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.6209 PH2003-07-30D1T01-FIXED.SHN
4:15.13 45012620 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5417 PH2003-07-30D1T02-FIXED.SHN
30:33.42 323440028 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5271 PH2003-07-30D1T03-FIXED.SHN
5:28.54 57986252 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5511 PH2003-07-30D1T04-FIXED.SHN
5:49.34 61643612 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5958 PH2003-07-30D1T05-FIXED.SHN
10:23.43 109998380 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.6381 PH2003-07-30D1T06-FIXED.SHN
8:00.67 84829628 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5732 PH2003-07-30D1T07-FIXED.SHN
6:43.64 71239772 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.5870 PH2003-07-30D2T01-FIXED.SHN
10:24.29 110141852 B --- -- ---xx shn 0.6018 PH2003-07-30D2T02-FIXED.SHN
88:21.47 935207340 B 0.5715 (9 files)

Summary:

There are 3 different fixed versions of the original version Source 1 #19640.

Source 2 - referenced by Rob Berg differs from the original only in the 2 tracks mentioned in fix descriptions - CDT & Taste.
It is not in the database. It appears to be more of a “shntool” fix than attempts to improve the volume fluctuations noted in the other info files. Its checksums are added to the original shnid #19640.

Source 3 - the fixed version in the database (#19821) differs from original in all set 1 tracks. I do not have access to this file set at time this was written. If Allen’s description is correct it is a patched/mixed version.

Source 4 - not in database, has all set 1 tracks changed from original in at least their timing. It appears to be a fix that is not patched /mixed but adjusts the original volume using a software option in Wavelab. However, all track lengths have changed so perhaps the tracks were combined for set 1, volume adjustments made to the whole set 1 waveform, then it was retracted.

Since Source 4 circulates as #19640, only differs in set 1 tracks as does #19640 and notes its a fix from “shakedown” I have added it as an alternate fixed version using shnid #19821.