|Entered by||Matt Vernon|
|Checksums||all_ffp , filler.ffp|
|Disc Counts||1 / 2|
|Source Summary||Set 1,3p; SBD(?)>C>CDR>EAC(secure)>CD-WAV>FLAC; Note: Note: may also circulate as 10-31-88, but this is the correct date as found in the Phish Companion (see updated info file).|
|Other Sources (comments)
Set 3p; SBD > Cass/2 > DAT;... (4) Set 2,3p only; SBD >... (2) Set 1,3p; SBD > Cass/x >... (0) [set 1] Unknown SBD > CDR >... (1) flac16, 48kHz;... (0)
|01/02/2004||Ben Mohr||Before archiving or burning, be sure to move d1t01-d1t04 (set 3p) to end of disc 2 for the correct set order. Also, this source can be combined with the previously circulated Set 3p for a complete Set 1 and 3 source.|
|01/03/2004||Pgross||Goddard College or Hamilton College?|
|01/07/2004||bla blazo||Goddard College|
The confusion about the venue comes from the tape itself. I got ths tape back in 1991 labeled as "Sigma Chi House, Hamilton College, Fall '88", so it definitely circulated under the Hamilton College label. The actual Hamilton College show was 11/5/88, and is an excellent show (although clearly not the same as this one).
However, I would still question the order of the setlist. According to the official setlist sites, Set III starts with the Fluffhead that appears on the Set II, then the three songs on this seed, then the Set III seed with the horns. The intro asking for a beer before GTBT definitely sounds like the beginning of a set (and more likely the beginning of the show), and with Fluffhead plus these three songs, Set III is almost 2 hours long, much longer than any set of a 3 set show in the 80s I'm aware of. Furthermore, I'll verify this on my tape later, I do not remember any discontinuity between Possum and Suzie. Since my tape was made in 1991 before the advent of CDR trading, if there is no discontinuity, it is definitely not the work of a cleverly placed crossfade.
I think that GTBT -> Possum probably actually belongs at the beginning of this set (i.e. Set I), not in Set III. Does anyone know what the source of the setlist is, and I don't mean "hpb" or something like that, I mean is there anyone who was there who can verify that this was actually part of Set III and not Set I.
On July 16, 2017 the info file for this source was replaced. The original info file can be found at the bottom of this comment.
The change was done for the following reasons:
1. The checksum is inconsistent with the info file regarding number of tracks and timings
2. communication received from “bla blazo” who is listed at the bottom of the info file.
“I don't have a match for 21412. I believe I originally uploaded it to etree as 10/31/88 because that was the info that came with the cassette. Someone changed my original text file to correct the date, venue and order but left my name. They may have also altered the flac files but I don't really know. Regardless, the ffps on my disc don't match.”
Note: That http://db.etree.org/shn/89339 is the circulating transfer from “bla blazo”.
3. A bt.etree torrent that linked to this shnid can be found here:
I (mvernon) was able to complete the torrent:
here are the ffp's in downloaded torrent files:
These ffp's match the ffp's in http://db.etree.org/shn/21412
There is no track d02t09 included in the torrent (see the torrent file list) as shown by the ffp integrity check. Rest of files check.
Verify FFP: ph1988-10-29.d1.txt.ffp
ph1988-10-29.d01t01.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d01t02.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d01t03.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d01t04.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d01t05.flac : OK
Verify Flac Files in ph1988-10-29.d1.txt.ffp
ph1988-10-29.d01t01.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d01t02.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d01t03.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d01t04.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d01t05.flac: testing, 100% complete
Verify FFP: ph1988-10-29.d02.txt.ffp
ph1988-10-29.d02t01.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t02.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t03.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t04.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t05.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t06.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t07.flac : OK
ph1988-10-29.d02t08.flac : OK
/Users/mattvernon/Downloads/ph1988-10-29.sIII,sI.flac16/ph1988-10-29.d2/ph1988-10-29.d02t09.flac: ERROR: reading metadata, status = "FLAC__METADATA_CHAIN_STATUS_ERROR_OPENING_FILE"
The FLAC file could not be opened. Most likely the file does not exist
or is not readable. : ph1988-10-29.d02t09.flac
Verify Flac Files in ph1988-10-29.d02.txt.ffp
ph1988-10-29.d02t01.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t02.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t03.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t04.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t05.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t06.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t07.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1988-10-29.d02t08.flac: testing, 100% complete
Here follows the info file included in the downloaded torrent files. It is different from the description in the torrent. What it shows is that the tracks in this torrent have combined Intro and GTBT into one track and the missing track d02t09 is filler.
--- start of info file included in the torrent --------
SET III partial, SET I
The Sculpture Room, Goddard College
1. Intro > Good Times, Bad Times
2. You Enjoy Myself>
4. Suzie Greenburg
***Set 1 cont.***
1. Time Loves a Hero
2. Golgi Apparatus
3. Axis: Bold as Love
4. La Grange
6. Costume Contest
7. Harry Hood
8. Philler: Unknown Jazz piece//
Cassette mislabled as:
I am putting this up in order to finally provide the community with a complete copy of this incredible performance! It sounds like they were having a great time!!! I recieved a copy of this on cassette and it sounded so good, I had to burn it to cd (JVC-W118 deck>JVC-XL-R5000 cd recorder).
I know this is not PROFESSIONAL quality, but if anyone is interested I would be willing to provide the cassette for professional mastering.
There are many splices throughout the cassette. CD-wav to re-track the WAV's>FLAC. I did not perform any sound editing, I left it pretty raw.
ph1988-10-29.d01t04.flac - dropout in the SBD @ 2:07-2:08
seeded by JamOn
I Just had to Share this one !!!!!
pm me for feedback
--- end of info file included in the downloaded torrent files -----
Here is the shntool output for track times from the downloaded torrent files. It shows that all tracks differ from the track times included in the torrent description and the info file at http://db.etree.org/shn/21412
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
5:39.33 59877260 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5532 ph1988-10-29.d01t01.flac
14:25.24 152642492 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5619 ph1988-10-29.d01t02.flac
7:30.63 79528220 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5609 ph1988-10-29.d01t03.flac
5:45.73 61029740 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5639 ph1988-10-29.d01t04.flac
10:46.72 114123788 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5624 ph1988-10-29.d01t05.flac
44:08.40 467201500 B 0.5610 (5 files)
length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
4:08.22 43798988 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5809 ph1988-10-29.d02t01.flac
4:51.49 51447692 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5804 ph1988-10-29.d02t02.flac
6:26.59 68229212 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5850 ph1988-10-29.d02t03.flac
3:35.44 38029532 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5735 ph1988-10-29.d02t04.flac
7:37.60 80755964 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5603 ph1988-10-29.d02t05.flac
4:35.09 48531212 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5632 ph1988-10-29.d02t06.flac
11:37.21 123000236 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5744 ph1988-10-29.d02t07.flac
2:55.30 30940604 B --- -- ---xx flac 0.5118 ph1988-10-29.d02t08.flac
45:47.69 484733440 B 0.5696 (8 files)
Summary of the torrent files:
A. The checksums in this torrent do match the checksums in http://db.etree.org/shn/21412 BUT the info file does not. The info file in the torrent explains the track layout and shows that it is different from the "12/28/03 - bla blazo" info file in http:db.etree.org/shn/21412.
B. This is source is different from the bla blazo version but the ffp for this version have been attached to the bla blazo version in the data base.
4. Since the checksums in http://db.etree.org/shn/21412 are for a different info file, and most owners linked to the shnid that are still active have the info file and tracks that match the bt.etree torrent, the info file for http://db.etree.org/shn/21412 was updated to match the torrent files with filler track missing.
- - - - - start of the http://db.etree.org/shn/21412 info file before replacement - - - - - -
***original info file was incorrect as it lists Set 3p before Set 1...move d1t01-d1t04 to end of disc 2***
Updated by Ben Mohr
Disc 1 (43:35)
1. Intro (00:19)
2. Good Times, Bad Times (05:37)
3. You Enjoy Myself> (13:55)
4. Possum (07:22)
5. Suzie Greenburg (05:41)
6. Lizards (10:39)
Disc 2 (42:53)
***Set 1 cont.***
1. Time Loves a Hero (04:16)
2. Golgi Apparatus (04:59)
3. Axis: Bold as Love (06:18)
4. La Grange (03:37)
5. Contact (07:40)
6. Costume Contest (03:58)
7. Harry Hood (12:02)
Notes: I tranfered my cassette using a Sony TC-WR665S for cassette playback and an Aiwa XC-RW700
stand alone burner for recording, eac'ed the resulting CDR to my hard drive for minor editing.
Not the greatest sound. Tracks split using Soundforge 6.0. Shntool used to verify sector boundaries. Encoded using
FLAC frontend version 1.7.1 Etree version.
12/28/03 - bla blazo
- - - - - end of the http://db.etree.org/shn/21412 info file before replacement - - - - - -