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Grateful Dead 02/22/74
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA
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Source # 26763 Other Sources
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5 , st5
Disc Counts 2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added		 11/16/2004
11/17/2004
Source Summary mixed SBD sources: Vault MR> DAT 48k, plus MR> Cassette> DAT 44.1k, with small patches from MR> Cassette> DAT> CD; Transfer: DAT> Audiophile 2496> Samplitude v7.02 Professional> SHN; Transfer, editing, and SHN by Joe Samaritano, with thanks to Michael P. Weitzman, David Gans, Charlie Miller 
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2/22/74 - Grateful Dead
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA

Main Lineage:
Soundboard->Vault Master Reel->DAT 48k, transferred 1991 Gans, 1st 45 minutes (US Blues->Big River)

Soundboard->Master Reel->Cassette->DAT 44.1k, transferred 2/94 Dick, Rest of show (Loose Lucy->UJB)


Patch Lineage:
Soundboard->Master Reel->Cassette->DAT->CD

Transfer:
DAT->Audiphile 2496->Samplitude v7.02 Professional->SHN
De-clicked/popped using Cool Edit Pro v2.0
Patched using crossfades with Samplitude v7.02 Professional

Transfer, editing, and SHN by Joe Samaritano
11/10/2004

Notes:
1. Upgrade over previously circulating copies
2. Thanks to Michael P. Weitzman for getting this started, David Gans
for the main Dat sources, and Charlie Miller for the patch source.
3. Small patches in Nobody's Fault and China Doll to cover missing
parts, likely due to tape changes.

Set 1:
d1t01 - U.S. Blues
d1t02 - BIODTL
d1t03 - Brown-Eyed Women
d1t04 - Mexicali Blues
d1t05 - IMHBTR
d1t06 - BT Wind
d1t07 - TLEO
d1t08 - Big River
d1t09 - Loose Lucy
d1t10 - El Paso
d1t11 - Row Jimmy
d2t01 - Tico Tico
d2t02 - PITB

Set 2:
d2t03 - Tennessee Jed
d2t04 - MAMU
d2t05 - Ship of Fools
d2t06 - Race is On
d2t07 - China Cat
d2t08 - IKYR
d2t09 - Truckin'
d2t10 - Nobody's Fault
d2t11 - GDTRFB

Set 3:
d3t01 - 1/2 Step
d3t02 - Promised Land
d3t03 - Brokedown Palace
d3t04 - Jack Straw
d3t05 - Eyes of the World
d3t06 - China Doll
d3t07 - Wharf Rat
d3t08 - Sugar Mag
d3t09 - E: UJB


SHNTOOL OUTPUT:
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE problems filename
     5:45.38       60947420    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t01.wav
     4:11.59       44415212    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t02.wav
     5:11.13       54891020    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t03.wav
     3:55.31       41526956    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t04.wav
     4:41.40       49662524    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t05.wav
     6:43.23       71143340    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t06.wav
     5:49.46       61671836    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t07.wav
     5:19.15       56306924    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t08.wav
     7:31.50       79674044    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t09.wav
     4:47.54       50753852    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t10.wav
     8:35.74       91020092    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d1t11.wav
     0:55.05        9713804    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t01.wav
    20:48.22      220198988    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t02.wav
     8:28.68       89771180    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t03.wav
     3:56.67       41788028    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t04.wav
     6:28.21       68492636    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t05.wav
     3:21.49       35571692    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t06.wav
     3:51.07       40764908    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t07.wav
    10:29.25      111014444    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t08.wav
     7:31.11       79582316    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t09.wav
     5:19.67       56429228    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t10.wav
     6:18.33       66756860    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d2t11.wav
     8:51.29       93736652    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t01.wav
     3:37.41       38375276    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t02.wav
     5:33.37       58828268    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t03.wav
     4:47.69       50789132    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t04.wav
    12:49.17      135691628    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t05.wav
     6:56.36       73467116    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t06.wav
     9:34.34      101333612    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t07.wav
     8:54.68       94357580    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t08.wav
     7:20.49       77731292    ---   --   -----   gd1974-02-22d3t09.wav
   208:27.73     2206407860 B                     (totals for 31 files)

MD5:
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st5
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soundcheck, reportedly this... (6) SBD > ? > SHN; Missing... (3) Lineage: SBD > D > CD >... (0) Sources: 1 - sbd > ? > shn... (0) flac16; Recording... (0)
Date User Comment
11/19/2004 C Miller (not Charlie) There is a pretty stark difference between the two sources. the Dick cassette source is noticably muddier and generally not as clean. Still sounds decent, though.
11/19/2004 Lewis/Klitschko Okay this is a recent one that purports to be speed corrected:

http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=21539

Can anyone familiar with both assert his preference?

Or is the new one obviously better? Or not?
11/20/2004 C Miller I'd say its a toss-up. While this one has a known lineage, the Dick cassette source is just not as crisp as the Gans source. The Gans source is beautiful. It's too bad there isn't a complete version from his transcription, because that would be the definitive version. As for #21539, I'd say it sounds a little better than the Dick portion of this show, but the patch source on that one sounds worse than the Dick source here.
11/20/2004 C Miller Another thing I should add is that the source used to patch Nobody's Fault was not speed corrected, and the difference is distinct as it goes from the Dick tape to the patch. The patched material is quite sped-up.
11/20/2004 Lewis/Klitschko Thanks for the info. I take all that to mean, go for the first disc of this source, but the other two from 21539.
11/20/2004 Joe Samaritano This is an upgrade from start to finish. I've spent a couple months comparing these side by side, I'll post my notes eventually. Using the term "muddy" to describe the Dick sourced part of this is an exaggeration. People put a lot of time and effort into seeding shows and then come the negative comments. Enjoy this for the beautiful music that it is and don't get hung up on a 30 second patch that isn't speed corrected. Please fix it and re-seed it if it will improve your listening pleasure.
11/22/2004 I would compare the transitions between the main and patch sources to a trip to the dentist to have a tooth pulled. The quality of the main source, however, is quite good.
12/08/2004 peter teitelbaum After having collected about 8 different versions of this over the years - dating from an analog copy back in the mid-70's - this is the best version I've heard to-date and the one I would recommend obtaining. Kudos to all involved in putting it together.

All other digital versions of China>Rider I've heard have static mirroring Garcia's guitar in spots, while this one is clean. As to the complaints that the one-gen portion is "muddy," I'm not finding it all that much different from the 1st 45 minutes, frankly. My guess - based upon my ancient cassette version that is actually quite good as well as every other version I've heard of this show - is that the MRs of this show just aren't as crisp and clean as the MR sources from the two shows that follow it.

As to the issue of speed-correcting the patches, yes they are a little fast, but not all THAT bad. All in all, I really like this version and doubt we'll hear anything superior unless and until Jeff Norman takes a crack at it and it's released.
12/21/2004 Diana Discursive chitchat has been pruned
12/21/2004 Lewis/Klitschko Timings on the patches?
12/29/2004 Lewis/Klitschko A couple fairly large "Slipknot" teases in the "Playin'."