|Entered by||Matt Vernon|
|Checksums||flac-md5 , ffp|
|Disc Counts||2 / 3|
|Source Summary||flac16; Primary Source: SBD> MR> DAT> CDR> WAV> SHN; patches and missing track from Unknown audience > C > ? > DAT >WAV > FLAC (level 8); AUD material courtesy Uli Teute via Jim Powell; via Chris Ladner?|
|Other Sources (comments)
set 2; master reel> pcm>... (3) SBD (probably... (4) SBD> MR> DAT> CDA> WAV>... (4) SBD>>MR>>DAT>>CDA>>WAV>>SHN... (0) flac16; Recording... (4) flac16; source: aud;... (0) flac16; Bear's... (0) flac16; Source:... (0)
See my comment here:
Some material perhaps should be patched into the "Other One," whether it be from the alternate soundboard or the audience, if my calculation was correct.
|11/26/2004||Charlie Miller||I listened to disc 3 yesterday andfound mny flaws that need to be fixed, which I guess I'll do soon. Also, as already mentioned, that cut in TOO is pretty bad and needs to be fixed....cm|
i must've missed the cut in TOO - do you guys have a timing?
also Jim Powell who sent me 2 pages of explicit typewritten instructions on what to put where along with the DATs and Uli Teute missed it.
just because the other circulating source (via mike lai) has a different length on TOO doesn't mean that this one is missing something - maybe the other TOO is from a different date - it wouldn't be the first time.
i need some timings where there is a break in the music or interuption in the beat or some kind of glitch.
In upgrading the other source, I followed the explicitly described flaw listing given by Charles Wier that pertains to the this source and this source only - http://db.etree.org/shn/12657.
|11/26/2004||Lewis/Klitschko||It's definitely not from a different date. It (157) is higher pitched and has, seemingly at odds, a longer running time.|
|11/27/2004||Charlie Miller||I also found other flaws besides to TOO cut. I'll fix the whole show soon...cm|
> shucks, maybe someone should actually
> listen to THIS seed and find out themselves?
to be sure Jim Powell and Uli listened to the master DAT material they sent. Charlies Wier also appears to have listened to the show with a fine toothed comb and made extensive notes which I used as an initial guide in fixing the flaws with the show prior to splicing.
Similar to the process involved in the hundreds of other shows that I've encoded and seeded to etree, I always listen to the entire show at least once through as burnt onto CD and didn't hear any dropouts prior to seeding. Prior to tracking, I subjected the entire show to a search for levels less than -50, -40 anf -30 dB levels to look for any additional subsecond dropouts on top of listening. I just listened to TOO again cranked as burnt onto a cd and don't hear any disjunction in beat or a dropout, so I don't think I'm being unreasonable to ask for a timing on a flaw or particular glitch after i spent a good 26 hours working on it and checking it out.
But now i did just hear a quiet pop at 00:40 in the post-TOO jam track - my neighbors in the apt above me heard it too, so maybe i should listen to it like this all the time. I still don't hear any problem with TOO.
Hopefully CM can get an upgrade of the whole complete show in SBD.
|11/27/2004||Chris L.||from the opening phil bomb preceding the first TOO runup until the first piano tinklings of Bobby McGee is about: 00:24:13.43 - the way it is tracked on the this source there was a ~ 3 minute post-TOO jam track which for all practical purposes could've just been lumped with the rest of TOO. maybe that accounts for the timing discrpancy? otherwise maybe there's a redundant segment in the alternative speedy source. maybe someone with that souce can listen and compare since i've uploaded this one to tol.|
|11/27/2004||Joe Samaritano||I'll dig out my Dat of this and see if there is anything different. Charlie, I'll call you if I find anything useful for the fix.|
i provided my dat to jim almost a year ago.. i did nothing else than running my cassettes and they are 1st gen a fact already lost in the lineage, onto dat and sent them to jim he took an awful long time and finally handed them over to chris.. anthing what happened after i sent them is out of my doing i was not involved in checking splices and omitted parts on the sbd.. i myself then finally downloaded it from tol as neither jim nor chris gave me an idea of what they were doing
about a month or so ago jim contacted me .. but there was no need to send me anything as i already had my downloaded cds i also sent jim 1 st gen aud of the 26th
|01/29/2005||Lewis/Klitschko||Joe, Uli, Charlie, have been able to learn anything new? Can it be repaired? Is it a notion to be confirmed or denied? Thanks to all.|
|01/08/2006||Charlie, did you ever seed a new fixed copy of this show? I don't see any listings here on the db.|
|01/23/2006||Robert Goetz||There is a cut at the 12:27 to 12:28 point of the Other One (d3t2).|
I am working on an upgrade from a dat that came from dick. If someone can get me the aud dat for patching, we can get this taken care of.
btw, I think that all circulating "master reel" copies actually have a cassette or reel gen in them.