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Grateful Dead 11/20/78
Cleveland Music Hall, Cleveland, OH
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Source Summary flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell 
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Cleveland Music Hall

Cleveland, OH

11-20-78 II

Sick Bits Vol. 16a

Matrix: SBD/AUD mix


SBD: (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN
     via Art Cohen?
AUD: (shnid=302) MAC>Reel>Reel>?>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN (thought to be Nak 300s)
     A/D by Dr. Rob Bertrando and encoded by Darrin Sacks - taper unknown,
     although Jack Warner confirms that it is not recorded by Hugh Barroll

Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8)

Matrixed by Chris Chappell

Set II only

s2t01 - Jam ->

s2t02 - Drums ->

s2t03 - Jam->

s2t04 - Jack A Roe

s2t05 - Playin' in the Band ->

s2t06 - Shakedown Street ->

s2t07 - If I Had the World to Give ->

s2t08 - Jam ->

s2t09 - Playin' Reprise ->

s2t10 - Around & Around

Total Time: 65:08

General Notes:

When the LlaMA had to pull the SBDs, one source I never got was the updated
multiple SBD source (shnid=21727) that included the first set. Also mentioned
is the Scott Jones AUD which runs through Jack-a-roe but is not listed in the
db, and I have not seen either source circulate as of late (hint hint).  If
both sources surface I can then put together the first set as well, so for
now this fileset is Sick Bits Vol. 16a and the first set would be Vol. 16b
(I'm naming this fileset "a" hoping that there will be a "b").

This SBD is not that bad (fast though), but Jerry's tone gets very big when
coupled with the added dimension of the AUD, which, all in all, is fairly
decent for the time period.  The SBD has some holes and finally cuts for
good before the Playin' Reprise.

The first set is about 76 mins. in length whereas this second set is about 65
mins. without an encore.  One of the strangest second sets in terms of format,
song selection, and plain old jamming - they essentially start with Space and
play two distinctive jams (the second with Jerry using the Mutron) sandwiched
around Drumz before finally settling into Jack A Roe, a 17 month rezi, 8th
time played, only version of 1978, and only version which involves a segue.  
After they stop playing after the Jack A Roe (the only break in the set),
Weir can clearly be heard on the SBD laying out the sequence: Playin >
Shakedown > World To Give > Playin (it's unclear if he mentions Round & Round)
- so this is very much planned, most likely because this is only the 5th
Shakedown (no reprise) and the third and final If I Had The World To Give.  
Also, according to those that were there, Weir was ill for the early part of
this set, so they opened with "jam".

Thanks to whomever recorded the AUD, to Rob Bertrando for converting it to
digital, and Darrin Sacks for encoding and seeding it. Since the SBD source
is a mystery, thanks to all of you who had a hand in the lineage.


Editing Notes:

- Pitch
Both sources were not very close in pitch.  The SBD had to be pitched
down between 28 and 30 cents, while the AUD had to be pitched down only
1 to 2 cents until midway through Shakedwown where there is a tape flip
and the rest of the set needed to be pitched down 17 cents.  

- Synch
Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits
were performed to keep the sources synched.  Because the SBD was my
master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many
edits to list).

- Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio
No EQ was applied to either of the two sources. I applied very sparingly
Waves L2 (limiter) to the master 2 buss to keep things contained, the
levels rarely hitting zero, thus the limiting is quite scarce. All I was
trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD by using the
ambience of the AUD. The result is a lively but clear recording, hopefully
close to how it sounded at the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio
would be somewhere between 3:1 and 2:1.  

- Edits
The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or
incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline.

s2t01 (0:00 - 2:20) - missing
s2t01 (4:04 - 4:07) - missing
s2t01>3 (9:41 - 0:13) - missing
s2t04 (4:28 - 4:43) - missing (crowd)
s2t08>10 (1:54 - 8:48) - missing

s2t05 (0:00 - 0:05) - missing (crowd)
s2t06 (7:08 - 7:14) - missing (tape flip)

Full coverage is achieved (for this portion of the show) although it's
AUD only for basically the last 3 tracks.

LlaMA reviews:

"The Grateful Dead - yep....that's right.... enough said..."

"Take a careful look at that second-set list. Bobby got sick -- was missing
at the start of the set (hence the start with a jam) appeared briefly to
start Playing in the Band, vanished for the rest of the show, and then
reappeared to finish the show. We pestered Healy the next night in Rochester:
'What happened last night?'
'Aw...Bobby was sick as a dawg, throwing up in the dressing room...'"

"The whole [second] set just scorches. Has a very nice jazzy feel and a rare
(and in my opinion, the best version of) "World to Give". Get this show!"

"...favorite of mine since it was my first show..the beginning of the second
set with jam-drums-jam is without weir. what the problem was i don't know but
he doesn't join in until jackaroe. this venue was an excellent place to see
them because it was on the lake downtown and small with great acoustics."

"without a doubt the funkiest shakedown i have ever heard. very good
sandwiched between playin & world to give. get it for the unusual 2nd set.
the shakedown is for the ages. so funky it hurts."


length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE problems filename
  9:51.22      104304188    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s201.flac
  3:01.66       32083676    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s202.flac
  3:21.45       35562284    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s203.flac
  4:44.23       50151740    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s204.flac
  9:36.51      101726396    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s205.flac
11:19.51      119895596    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s206.flac
  7:59.30       84566204    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s207.flac
  3:23.65       35962124    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s208.flac
  2:59.08       31594460    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s209.flac
  8:48.56       93270956    ---   --   ---xx   gd78-11-20s210.flac
65:06.42      689117624 B (totals for 10 files, 0.6177 overall compression ratio)

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