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Grateful Dead 03/25/66
Trouper's Hall, Los Angeles, CA
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Source Summary with 7/3/66; see notes in info file; to abgd, later to etree; listener Daniel Kessler reports several digispots 
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Grateful Dead
03/25/66
Troupers Hall
Los Angeles, CA

Stealin' [#1:37]
Jam [7:41]
Hey Little One [4:46]
Hog For You  Baby [2:49]
You Don't Have To Ask [5:56]

Cold Rain And Snow [3:24]
Next Time You See Me [2:30#]

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Comments:
Thayer Jennings: After You Don't Have To Ask,
Garcia says: "Okay, we'll be back in just a  few scant minutes."
& Lesh: "We're gonna take a little break now.
Don't  forget: on the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th..."(cut).
DeadBase X: After Hey Little One -- Bob: "Hey Little One".
After Cold Rain And Snow -- Bobby: "That was Cold Rain And Snow".

Transcribed by Teddy GoodBear: Troupers Hall was the meeting room
for a retired actor's club in  Hollywood. The rent for the
gig could'nt. have been much. We did  everything ourselves,
all in two days. We plastered handbills all over  Hollywood.
Stage decor was a few lengths of paisley cloth purchased that  
afternoon at a fabric store. For a box office, we had a card
table and a  cigar box. Our not-quite-full house must have had
over a hundred people; and when the  night was over, our net
take was $75. At 2 o'clock in the morning, we went  to Cantor's
Deli on Fairfax and spent it all on dinner for everybody --  with
desert. -- Grateful Dead Family Album (page 43).
http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/03_25_66-1.html  
http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/03_25_66-2.html  
To listen to the show using "Real Audio":
http://sugarmegs.org/ram/gd3-25-66.ram  
http://www.deadlegs.com/tunes/1960/1966/32566/32566.ram  

Recordings:
30 SB. The complete list circulates in SBD.
The beginning of Stealin' is clipped with a significant portion
missing. The end of Next Time You See Me cuts with a significant
portion missing. Sometimes this  recording incorrectly circulates
as 01/??/66 or 01/22/66. To see a recording box label,
(as per Michael Wanger letter, see  07/??/66), from Golden State
Recorders:  
http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/03_25_66-3.html  

Contributors:
Jeff Tiedrich , Thayer Jennings,
Teddy GoodBear ,
David  Sorochty ,
Michael Wanger ,  
Grateful Dead Family Album--p.43, DeadLegs ,
SugarMegs:  Mike Maloney .


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Grateful Dead
07/03/66
Fillmore Auditorium
San Francisco, CA

Dancin' In The Street [7:17]
I Know You Rider [1:49#]
He Was A  Friend Of Mine [#6:55]
Next Time You See Me [2:56]
Viola Lee Blues  [7:21]
Big Boss Man [3:29]
Sittin' On Top Of The World [2:32#]

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Comments:
"Independence Ball" - Other artist(s): Love & Group B.
To listen to the show using "Real Audio":
http://sugarmegs.org/ram/gd7-3-66.ram  

David Sorochty: Most tapes have the song order listed in
Deadbase 9 and earlier editions,  which is incorrect. The
correct song order is what's listed above. Our  tapes seem
to come from two shorter tapes which overlap a bit at the  
beginning of Viola Lee Blues. Here's what's on my DAT tape
which comes from a low gen reel: 7/3/66 Part 1 - some of the
between song talking, then: Viola Lee Blues Big Boss Man Sittin'
On Top of The World# Filler (Scorpio 45 RPM): Don't Ease Me In
Stealin'  7/3/66 Part 2: Dancin' In The Streets I Know You Rider#
#He Was A Friend Of Mine Next Time You See Me all of the between
song talking intact with no splice and then: Viola Lee Blues#
(cuts out after just a minute or so) It is apparent that
chronologically what I call Part 2 comes first, then  Part 1 -
they just overlap a bit on the beginning of Viola Lee.
Most  cassette tapes in circulation have the above order with the
Scorpio filler  moved to the end (sometimes the Viola Lee overlap
part is intact, other  times it is cut off). A few tapes in
circulation have Part 2 first and  then Part 1 with the overlap
removed (which I believe is the right order)  and the Scorpio filler
last. DeadBase X does list what I believe is the correct song order
and also  lists several more songs which do not circulate. They are:
Unknown,  Minglewood, Cold Rain, Unknown, BIODTL, Cream Puff War &
It's A Good  Thing."  

Dick Latvala - According to DeadLists Digests #534:  
ftp://gdead.berkeley.edu/pub/gdead/set-lists/DEADLIST_PROJECT/digest-archive/v01.n534  
Dick Latvala has crossed out "it's a good thing" and written
"MESS UP A  GOOD THING CARDBOARD COWBOY". Is this the real name of
the song we call  "Cardboard Cowboy"? Or did Dick forget to put a
comma after 'Mess Up A  Good Thing' and the next song would be
'Carboard Cowboy'?

Thayer Jennings: "My reasoning for listing He Was A Friend Of Mine
and  Next Time before Viola Lee:* I have three different copies of
this -- two  of the three are similar to the DeadBase listing (i.e.
with Friend Of Mine  and Next Time at the end of the set)... but the
last copy came to me  mislabeled as "04/23/66 San Fran"... but it is
actually this (07/03/66).  The set list on this third copy is the
same as I've listed above (cutting  in on Friend Of Mine and cutting
out during Top Of The World). The key  'dead air' segment -- between
Next Time and Viola Lee is intact. There is a small bit of conversation
between the two (which partially  exists on my other copies):
Next Time > applause > Garcia [to band]: "Had to do it man. I had to do  
it." (laughter) "I just had to do it, you know how it is." (pause,
but no  splice)  Pigpen [to Garcia (or band)]: "Viola Lee Blues".
Garcia [to audience]: "We  had a request for this... before... before
we did it. And uh..."  Lesh(?) [in background, to band]: "I don't know,
man. I can't tell by  this...(?)"  Garcia [continuing, to audience]:
"...and... it's called Viola Lee Blues."  Weir(?): "Aww, no..."> Viola
Lee Blues." DeadBase X [under 'mislabelled tapes']: Many copies of
this have four additional songs after Next Time You See Me.  Stealin'
and Don't. Ease are from the Scorpio Records single. Lindy is  from
'Historic Dead' and Baby Blue is from 'Vintage Dead'. This tape is  
sometimes dated 9/4/66.  

DeadBase X [under 'Tape Timings']: There is a silver of Don't. Ease
introduction that cuts almost immediately  between Top Of The World
and Dancin'.  Before Viola Lee Blues -- Jerry: "We had a request for
this before... before we did it. It's called Viola  Lee Blues."
Bobby: "Oooh Nooo!"  Before I Know You Rider -- Jerry: "Along with
our previous dedication dedicating this evening's sets on our  part
to the Sundancers in Ignatio, Colorado, we'd also like to dedicate
a  certain portion of this to Mnasidika, this little clothes store,
you know,  down on Haight Street that has some things and it's all
right, and it's  all right... indeed. We'd like to continue along
the same happy vein...  with another song, no doubt."  I Know You
Rider cuts during the "muddy Water" verse. The beginning of He  Was
A Friend Of Mine is cut.

Recordings:
34 SB. The complete list circulates in SBD.
The beginning of He Was A Friend Of Mine is clipped with an
indeterminate portion missing. Sittin' On Top Of The World cuts
off with a significant portion missing.  The end of I Know You
Rider cuts off with a significant portion missing.  
Also (consult vault sources). To see a recording box label,
(as per Michael Wanger letter, see  07/??/66), from Golden State
Recorders:  http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/07_03_66.html  

Contributors:
Jeff Tiedrich , Thayer Jennings,
David Sorochty , Teddy  GoodBear ,
Michael Wanger , Dick  Latvala (consult vault sources),
DeadBase X, Adrian M. Johnson  , Bill
Graham Presents: "The Art Of Rock" book  [BG 14], "The Art Of The Fillmore"
book p.41, SugarMegs: Mike Maloney  .  


Thanx & a Tip o' the Hat to David Hollister
Shn's posted to alt.binaries.gdead.highspeed April, 2000
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02/22/2004 Adam Bishop 03-25-66
This is really a great recording especially considering the era that it came from. If I had to make a complaint about it, it would have to be that there is little bass. The keys are a little heavy at times as well. That's just being very picky though. All in all, this is a real nice seed and must have for any collector.