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Garcia 01/17/74
Keystone, Berkeley, CA
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Entered by Joe Jupille
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Disc Counts 2 / 2
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08/09/2006
08/09/2006
Source Summary Garcia & Saunders: MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN. Recorded by Louis Falanga, Sony ECM 250 > Sony TC-110. This matches the sbd of 1/17/74 and portions of audience from shnid=10024; speed correction and patching by kevtobin 
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Garcia & Saunders
Keystone; Berkeley, CA
1/17/74

Disc One 71:08
Set I
Someday Baby [16:24]
La-La [14:04]
Second That Emotion [15:55]
My Funny Valentine [24:41]

Disc Two 73:46
Set I (con't)
Who's Lovin' You Tonight? [16:40]
Set II
Finders Keepers [11:29]
Think [11:04]
Are You Lonely For Me Baby? [21:56]
Harder They Come [12:32]

------------------- original shnid 10024 information ------------------
MAC > D > CD > EAC > SHN

Recorded by Louis Falanga [was incorrectly listed as Bob Menke], unknown setup.

Extraction using EAC, retracking using CD Wave,
sector boundary verification using shntool, and
.shn encoding using mkwACT.

Flaws/Notes:
d1t04 Second That Emotion light tick @ 4:22
d1t05 My Funny Valentine cut/splice @ 16:08
d2t02 Finders Keepers cuts in, not much missing
d2t02-03 pop just before track marker
d2t06 Lonely for Me (master?) anomalies @ 10:36-11:04
d2t06 Lonely for Me cuts out

Additional Notes:
Variable speed problems throughout, though absent
those problems (which really aren't that distracting)
this is an excellent recording.  I will not note specific
speed-related anomalies in these flaw notes.

This is tracked and noted as a three-set show, consistent
with the taper's recollection and notations.  However, it
seems at least possible that this material derives from two
separate shows, either from 1/17 and 1/18 or from early and
late shows on the 18th.  First, the show is longer in terms
of sets and minutes than just about any other Garcia & Saunders
show on record. Second, Finders Keepers, Think, the "sure is quiet
for Berkeley" comment, and Are You Lonely For Me Baby? have
circulated since at least 1990 with a date of 1/17 (albeit
1973, which seems clearly incorrect).  Third, the tuning break
during "set III" (disc four) has two separate audience members
calling for songs that appear earlier on this recording
(Finders Keepers and Second That Emotion).  It seems unlikely
that two separate audience members would have forgotten
what had been played only an hour or two earlier and/or
requested that a song be repeated.  Ultimately, we will
probably never know, but this material rocks nonetheless!
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I patched this version with portions from the sbd (SBD=>MR =>DAT (44.1KHz) =>CDR shnid 20678) and Dick's Gift (MSR>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN). I am going with the consensus that this portion of the show was from 1/17/74 as it matched the sbd of that date note for note. The Dick's Gift material also matched both the sbd and this portion of the audience. I also tried to verify if the Harder They Come from the source audience (Disk 4 2. Harder They Come [14:45]) matched the soundboard which it did not. While listening to the Harder They Come from the audience source, I noticed that the overall sound is different making me believe that that portion of the tape was from a different night.

My intent was to use this audience with the sbd sources for creating a dts version of this show. I matched the speed of this recording to the Dick's Gift - it was slightly fast overall (about 1/4 a second per minute) and more consistent than the sbd recording.

Performed the following patches:
1) 16:08 in My Funny Valentine - 38.439 was missing from audience - patched and normalized from Dick's Gift
2) 39.500 was missing from start of Finders Keepers - patched and normalized from sbd source
3) 15:35 in Are You Lonely Tonight, the recording ends. 19:06 was replaced from the sbd to finish the song and include Harder They Come

- Mixed by [email protected]
- FLAC conversion 07-AUG-2006  

Flac fingerprint:
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Garcia & Saunders; SBD=>MR... (1) Garcia & Saunders;... (1) Garcia & Saunders; DTS... (1) Garcia & Saunders: primary... (0) Garcia & Saunders;... (0) Garcia & Saunders; DTS... (1) JGMS; flac16; Matrix... (0) JGMS; flac16DTS... (0) JGMS; Soundboard > Master... (0)
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08/13/2006 kevtobin please note: just after I seeded this fine audience, I found the rest of the show in an unknown audience clip - the complete show in audience format is shnid 76471 and you should get that instead of this one. thanks. Kevin