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Set I
Hard To Handle
Candyman
Me And My Uncle
Cold Rain And Snow
Dancing In The Street
Uncle John's Band
Candyman
Me And My Uncle
Cold Rain And Snow
Dancing In The Street
Uncle John's Band
Set II
Set III
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7/17/2018 Update - there is very good evidence and reason to believe that there was NO 12/17/70 show. Not at the Winterland, and not at The Matrix. According to Charlie Miller, this music comes from 10/4/70 & 10/5/70. A series of mixups and confusing events have led to the interpretation of a show on this date. For example, the date 12/17 and 12/23 come from Vault master tapes, but were the mixdown dates, not the event dates. See http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/10/mysterious-case-of-121770.html for all the answers.
The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labeled 12/17/70 - Winterland."
A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tapelists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mislabeled as 12/23/70.
The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labeled 12/17/70 - Winterland."
A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tapelists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mislabeled as 12/23/70.
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Collectors With This Show
| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael McMullan (2/5) | CDR/FLAC / 1 | A | View | 87356 | SBD | |
| Dan Walter (2/0) | Hard Drive / 0 | View | 87356 | |||
| Kevin Boland (1/4.7) | Flac / 1 | View | ||||
| Gary Field (1/5) | 87356 / 1 | View | 87356 | SBD | ||
| Notes: | SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac [081229.1] | |||||
| Marc Deardorff (1/5) | flac / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Notes: | SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac | |||||
| phil (1/5) | cd / 1 | a- | View | 87356 | sbdmr>c>cd | |
| Notes: | see notes. FLAC files (hd 1970 project part 8) | |||||
| CDJones (1/5) | FLAC/CDR / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Notes: | 87356 | |||||
| Stuart Ferguson (1/4.3) | CDR / 1 | View | 87356 | Soundboard | ||
| Notes: | DVD 3501; lineage: SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac | |||||
| J Parzych (1/5) | FLAC / 0 | View | 87356 | SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac | ||
| OldNeumanntapr (1/5) | FLAC / 0 | A | View | 87356 | Soundboard; Master Reel >Master Cass? >Cass >Cool Edit >FLAC | |
| Notes: | caveat: The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labeled 12/17/70 - Winterland." A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tapelists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mislabeled as 12/23/70. (One LMA Reviewer Thought This Could Be 10/5/70 Winterland) | |||||
| Joe (1/5) | FLAC / 0 | View | 87356 | |||
| John Peters (1/0) | FLAC / 1 | View | 87356 | SBD: MR > MC? > C > Cool Edit Pro > FLAC | ||
| Geoff MacNaughton (1/5) | 1 / 1 | A- | View | 87356 | ||
| Richard Markley (1/5) | flac / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Notes: | HD3 | |||||
| SIRMick (1/5) | FLAC / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Matt Vernon (1/4.8) | FLAC / 1 | A/B | A/B | View | 87356 | |
| Notes: | flac16; SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac Note this about the date: "The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labeled 12/17/70 - Winterland." A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tapelists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mislabeled as 12/23/70. " [2009-10-10]Fairly clear, hiss free sbd - i do not know how this matches up with material on 12/23/70 | |||||
| SpiralLightofVenus (1/5) | FLAC / 0 | SBD | View | 87356 | ||
| Notes: | SBD TB4 | |||||
| GratefulBrad (1/5) | flac / 0 | View | 87356 | |||
| winterland121072 (1/0) | / 0 | View | 87356 | |||
| Israel Frankel (1/0) | flac cd-r / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Tommy Danscuk (1/5) | flac / 1 | View | 87356 | Sbd > Reel | ||
| brett garvey (1/5) | FLAC / 1 | A | View | 87356 | SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac | |
| Notes: | gd 079 | |||||
| LossLess Legs (1/0) | CDR / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Notes: | 01/25/2009 - norm | |||||
| Danny Smack (1/5) | CDR / 1 | A | View | 87356 | SBD>MR>C | |
| David Backus (1/5) | DVDR/FLAC / 0 | View | 87356 | SBD | ||
| raincooker (1/0) | / 1 | A | View | SOUNDBOARD, All | ||
| Kima (1/0) | flac / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Erik (1/0) | / 0 | View | 87356 | |||
| jgglass (1/0) | / 1 | View | 87356 | |||
| Martin M. Pedersen (1/3) | flac / 1 | A | View | SBD > Master Reel > Master Cassette? > Cassette > CoolEdit > Flac | ||
| Notes: | gd70-12-17t01.flac:e6880fc9c28c3b35aa0f25c92638a344 gd70-12-17t02.flac:cf162810063c1126ee34ba9a4ff2b464 gd70-12-17t03.flac:126ebe1d720b1638c1797cc04a304092 gd70-12-17t04.flac:068a221efe5c0aae275a05ee6f2aabf7 gd70-12-17t05.flac:f14c37703f33df5171316c1579466fe1 gd70-12-17t06.flac:506518f25e7abaee535de4c00bebde15 | |||||