Grateful Dead 06/23/1974

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SBD, with patches (see updated info file for details, including about "blank" tracks); "painstakingly complete" version assembled by J. Belkin; also see additional comments from D. Sacks: contrary to original info file, primary SBD was not subject to NR; report from Skank: only discs 1&2 were posted? to abgd at first, fixed d3 before completing; to etree via A. Stern 2/2; pre-fixed d3 may have been etreed earlier- note fixed d3 has 10 tracks

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AUD MR> R> DAT/1> HD> SHN> CD; recorded by Neil Merin - unknown mics > Uhrer 5" master reel; A>D transfer by Noah Weiner; includes SBD-sourced encore

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AudMC > DAT > WAV > SHN Recorded by Jerry Moore about 15 rows from the stage on center axis with 2 hand held AKG D-1000E mics > Sony 152 deck. Maxell UD-120 cassettes, with Dolby B ON.

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MSR>DAT>CD w/ MAC>DAT patches

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Remaster of sbd w/ aud patches by Owens Brothers

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flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 21b - SBD/AUD Matrix of 2 previously circulating sources: SBD (shnid=213) + AUD (shnid=14265). Matrixed by Chris Chappell.

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flac16; source: aud cassette master akg d1000e's>Sony TC-152 taped by Jerry Moore lineage: aud c.m.>dat>cdr>eac>cd wave>flac transfered by Rob Berger '99, tracking by John Tallmadge

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AudMC > DAT>CD>DC6>CD Recorded by Jerry Moore about 15 rows from the stage on center axis with 2 hand held AKG D-1000E mics > Sony 152 deck. Maxell UD-120 cassettes, with Dolby B ON. Analog > DAT, DAT > SHN/CD Editing and Mastering by The Wizard, see info file for details

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flac24; aud cassette master, akg d1000e's>sony tc-152, taped by Jerry Moore, transfer/seeded by Rob Berger new 24 bit transfer ~ 1/31/2010

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flac24:Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (FLAC24 & SHN>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC24)

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flac16; Matrix By Hunter Seamons Using Final Cut Pro (flac24 & Shn>aiff>final Cut>wav>flac16)

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flac16; sbd>?>cd Mastered via the Apogee mini me>Mini DAC>FLAC Transfer and Mastering by: Matt Smith

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flac16; sbd>?>cd Mastered via the Apogee mini me>Mini DAC>FLAC Transfer and Mastering by: Matt Smith - Patched and speed corrected version of shnid 116312 by Kevin Tobin

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flac24; Matrix 3 Source Mix - SBD1 (shn id 116312)sbd>?>cd Mastered via the Apogee mini me>Mini DAC>FLAC Transfer and Mastering by: Matt Smith + SBD2 (shn id 16780) MSR>DAT>CD w/ MAC>DAT patches + AUD1 (shnid 105755) flac24; aud cassette master, akg d1000e's>sony tc-152, taped by Jerry Moore, transfer/seeded by Rob Berger new 24 bit transfer ~ 1/31/2010 - matrix mixing by Kevin Tobin

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flac16; Matrix 3 Source Mix - SBD1 (shn id 116312)sbd>?>cd Mastered via the Apogee mini me>Mini DAC>FLAC Transfer and Mastering by: Matt Smith + SBD2 (shn id 16780) MSR>DAT>CD w/ MAC>DAT patches + AUD1 (shnid 105755) flac24; aud cassette master, akg d1000e's>sony tc-152, taped by Jerry Moore, transfer/seeded by Rob Berger new 24 bit transfer ~ 1/31/2010 - matrix mixing by Kevin Tobin

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DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix; SBD (shn id 116312) sbd>?>cd Mastered via the Apogee mini me>Mini DAC>FLAC Transfer and Mastering by: Matt Smith + SBD2 (shn id 16780) MSR>DAT>CD w/ MAC>DAT patches + AUD2 (shnid = 105755) aud cassette master, akg d1000e's>sony tc-152, taped by Jerry Moore, transfer/seeded by Rob Berger new 24 bit transfer ~ 1/31/2010 - dts mixing by Kevin Tobin

User (active/rating)	Media / #	Show	Sound	Details	DB Source	User Source
Chris Leise (5/0)	CDR / 3		A	View		SBD
jt james (5/3)	SHN / 2		A	View
Lindsay Meeks (5/0)	CD-R / 3		A	View		MR>DAT>CD
Notes:	sbd>mr>pcm>dat>cdr
Tony Handmaker (5/5)	SHN / 2			View	213
Notes:	SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor 820 burner > CDRx1 > EAC > SHN Missing parts of the SBD supplied by: * AUD >?Cassette> A/D: Panasonic 3700>Prodif Plus>Samp2496>CDRx1>EAC>SHN (Broadcast by WHRB-FM during Grateful Dead Orgy, early 1980?s.) ** SBD >?>DAT(n) >Prodif Plus > Samp2496>CDRx1>EAC>SHN>CD>EAC>shn
Tony Handmaker (5/5)	SHN / 2			View	16780
Notes:	MSR>DAT>CD, supplied by Andy Lemieux
Dan Smith (5/3)	CDR / 1	A	A	View		SBD
Notes:	Set 1 only
bleu (5/0)	/ 0			View
Lookin2trade (5/4)	shn / 2			View
Notes:	SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor 820 burner > CDRx1 > EAC > SHN Missing parts of the SBD supplied by: * AUD >?>FM>cassette>A/D: Panasonic 3700>Prodif Plus>Samp2496>CDRx1>EAC>SHN Broadcast by WHRB-FM during Grateful Dead Orgy, early 1980?s.) ** SBD >?>DAT(n) >Prodif Plus > Samp2496>CDRx1>EAC>SHN
jeff mcdearmon (5/5)	SHN / 3			View	213
Jason (5/3.7)	cdr / 3		A	View
Christian T (5/5)	shn / 2	A	A/B	View	213	SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor...
Notes:	audio = 3 discs;
Lee (5/0)	CD-R / 3	A	A	View
Mackie Yellon (5/5)	CDR / 3		A	View		SBD>CASS>DAT>CDR
Steve Oliver (5/0)	/ 3			View
Notes:	SBD>AUD Patches
Bill Kelly (5/0)	shn / 0			View	213
Wischmeier (5/0)	SHN / 2			View		SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card >Samplitude 2496 > Plextor...
Notes:	BAND Grateful Dead VENUE Jai-Alai Fronton CITY Miami STATE FL DATE 6/23/74 [Additional note on disc assembly from Josh (more details below)]: "Two tracks, D1T3 and D3T1, don't have song titles. In the case of D1T3, it's there so that the previous AUD/SBD mixed Ramble On Rose track is the same length (well, nearly so, I goofed slightly I guess) as the straight-SBD RoR at the end of Disk three, so that purists can take out the mixed RoR and swap in the straight-SBD one if they want to rearrange the tracks on Disk1. It was that or else make the straight-SBD RoR about :58 longer. D3T1 mini-track is there so that I can have a proper track marker at the start of Dark Star." Source Lineage: SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor 820 burner * AUD >?>FM>cassette>A/D: Panasonic 3700>Prodif Plus>Samp2496 (Broadcast by WHRB-FM during Grateful Dead Orgy, early 1980's.) ** "Phil's Tape" SBD? >?>DAT(n) >Prodif Plus > Samp2496 Sound processing: AUD source: Dehum, Denoise, Timestretched to match SBD speed "Phil's Tape" SBD: Timestretched to match SBD speed The "Phil's Tape" source is probably the one mentioned in www.deadlists.com, "made by Phil with mikes onstage", since the tape has no cuts. The AUD source is probably the one mentioned in Taper's Compendium Vol. 1: Jerry Moore & Les Kippel , AKG D-200 mikes > Sony 152 deck Mastered Dec '99/Jan '00 by Josh Belkin [email protected] DISK ONE Set One: [68:37] 1. ...testing...this is a test... * [1:43] 2. Ramble On Rose @ [6:25] 3. [ :58] 4. Black Throated Wind [6:55] 5. ...Bermuda Triangle microphone weirdness... & [3:45] 6. Intro> [ :55] 7. Half-Step [7:43] 8. Beat It On Down the Line [4:00] 9. Row Jimmy Row ** [7:56] 10. Jackstraw [5:18] 11. Let It Rock [4:12] 12. Cumberland Blues [6:11] 13. El Paso [4:35] 14. To Lay me Down [7:59] * AUD & about 20s in middle patched from AUD @ mix of AUD + SBD sources until [2:13], then all SBD last 35 sec. patched from the "Phil's Tape" source ----------------- DISK TWO Set One: [52:02] 1. Weather Report Suite Prelude > [1:39] 2. Weather Report Suite Part 1 > [4:18] 3. Let It Grow > [10:36] 4. China Doll [5:32] Set Two: 5. Ship of Fools Instrumental Jam > [4:10] 6. Ship of Fools [6:06] 7. Big River [4:51] 8. Black Peter [9:30] 9. Around and Around [5:18] ~20 seconds missing from SBD were patched from "Phil's Tape" ----------------- DISK THREE Set Two, continued: [73:28] 1. [ :14] 2. Dark Star > [17:33] 3. Spanish Jam > [4:16] 4. U.S. Blues [8:19] 5. Uncle John's Band [7:56] 6. One More Saturday Night [5:29] 7. e: Casey Jones [6:41] 8. Ramble On Rose - unprocessed AUD [8:01] 9. Ramble On Rose - processed AUD [7:55] 10. Ramble On Rose - straight SBD [6:29] (not mixed with AUD, not Denoised) ** ~20 seconds missing from SBD were patched from "Phil's Tape" -- additional comments from Darrin Sacks: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:29:19 -0700 From: "Darrin N. Sacks" To: [email protected] Subject: [etree] Grateful Dead 6.23.74 - Patched has NO noise reduction Hi, A newly circulating show has an erroneous info file attached to it -- Contrary to the statement in the info file accompanying the 6.23.74 patched soundboard that is circulating, the primary soundboard source used for this show (the SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>) that was used for all but a few short segments was NOT subject to noise reduction. Although Josh, the guy who performed the tremendous job of splicing in the cuts on the primary soundboard from previously circulating audience and alternate soundboard sources, did digitally process the alternate sources (he time aligned them and denoised/dehummed them), he did not perform noise reduction on the primary soundboard source that is circulating on the etree. This misunderstanding occurred because Josh did perform noise reduction on the primary soundboard source that he traded to a few of his friends. However, we collectively decided that the version circulated on the etree & on alt.binaries.gdead should not contain noise reduction -- and it does not. Josh accidentally sent out cd covers to the etree and alt.binaries.gdead seed sources for this show indicating that the primary soundboard source was processed with noise reduction -- which it was not. So, please disregard this annotation and don't pass up this gem of a show on the mistaken understanding that it contains noise reduction. While I'm on the topic, I should also point out that disk 3 of the show was redone and re-seeded after its initial seeding to the etree. The show should not have been distributed prior to the updated disk 3's seeding, but its easy to tell if you have the "correct" disk 3 -- it has ten tracks. Disk 3 was reseeded because, after Josh initially distributed the show, we discovered that there was a reel flip in the middle of US Blues. On So Many Roads, this reel flip was edited out by removing a chunk of the song (see the liner notes). On the re-seeded version, this 20 second gap (pretty impressive timing for re-threading a reel-to-reel deck, imho), was spliced in from what is believed to be a stage miced version recorded by Phil (the prior version had a cut at this point). This is the only difference. That ought to do it -- given the recent thread regarding the "evils" of noise reduction, I didn't want this amazing show & work of restoration to be passed by. My advice -- download and uncompress a track or 2 (Josh's blending of the aud source with the sbd source on Ramble On Rose -- d1t1 -- is amazing, and the Dark Star -- d3t1 -- sounds fabulous and allows people with SMR to compare this source's sound quality to the very same song on SMR) and decide what to do from there. Siteops hosting this show -- it would be nice if you modified the info file to remove the erroneous noise reduction info. Darrin Public Comments Comment Date User Comment Sep 20, 2000 Josh Belkin I made up nice Word .DOC label files for this set. I scanned in the black&white architectural drawing of the Wall of Sound at Hollywood Bowl (7-21-74) and have it in the label. Each .DOC file is therefore kinda large (475 kb) because of the embedded .GIF, but I like 'em. They have all the info noted above (genologies, track times). If you want these, leave a Comment here with your email (I'm not leaving MY email 'cause I don't want spam) and I'll check back here every now and then. Sep 21, 2000 Diana Hamilton A couple of follow up remarks to Josh's message: According to Tom, this site is protected from spiders, so you can post your address without fear, Josh! The db now has the capability to add cover links, so if someone ends up donating hosting space, there could be a pointer from the date entry. I'd rather the shn comment areas didn't get too chat board-y, and stayed higher content. Thus, as admin I'd probably delete any "me too, please" posts here at intervals. Finally, thanks again Josh for your hard work and generosity with this seed! :)
jay (5/0)	/ 3			View
Chris Spearen (5/0)	/ 3		A	View		soundboard
Steve Herman (5/0)	/ 0			View
Josh Carver (5/0)	CD / 3		A	View		MRCDATDATCD
Ray Hansen (5/5)	CDR / 3	A	A	View		sbd>mr>cass>dat>cd
Tim (5/5)	CD / 3	A	A	View
Hub Spencer (5/4.7)	CDR / 3	A	A	View		SBD Master Reel > DAT > CassetteM >DAT(3) > Prodif Plus card > CDRx1 > EAC >...
Notes:	Complete show Has all patches and 3 versions of Ramble on Rose. Extensive show detail in database
Dave Bleuher (5/5)	/ 2			View	213
Tom Cornell (5/0)	CDR / 3	A-	A-	View
Mike (5/1.6)	CD-R / 3			View
Charlie Teeple (5/0)	SHN / 2			View	213
Jack Fisher (5/4.3)	CDR / 3	A	A	View		SBD
Patrick Donnelly (5/5)	CDR / 3		B	View	7894	AUD>MSR (Uher 5")>RxR>DAT>HD>SHN>WAV>CD
Notes:	Sound is OK. Good for '74 AUD. weird show, they were tripping that night. I: disc 1: 1 "This is a test" 2:05 2 Ramble On Rose 6:18 3 Black Throated Wind 7:04 4 "Tico Tico" tuning 0:57 5 Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo 8:17 6 Beat It On Down The Line 4:10 7 Row Jimmy 8:07 8 Jack Straw 5:12 9 Let It Rock* 3:35 10 Cumberland Blues 6:19 11 El Paso 4:34 12 To Lay Me Down 8:11 disc 2: 1 Weather Report Suite Prelude> 1:21 2 Weather Report Suite Part One> 4:21 3 Let It Grow> 11:04 4 China Doll 5:19 I.5: 5 Phil and Ned (Seastones)* 7:06 II: 6 Jam> 4:19 7 Ship Of Fools 6:23 8 Big River 5:53 9 Black Peter 11:02 10 Around and Around 5:21 disc 3: 1 Dark Star> 18:10 2 Spanish Jam> 4:13 3 U.S. Blues 10:39 4 Uncle John's Band> 8:10 5 One More Saturday Night 4:53 6 Casey Jones
Todd Francis (5/0)	CDR / 3			View

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