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Grateful Dead 10/17/74
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA
Set I
Promised Land, Mississippi Half Step, Black Throated Wind, Friend Of The Devil, Jack Straw, Loser, El Paso, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Me & My Uncle, It Must Have Been The Roses, Weather Report Suite Prelude-> Weather Report Suite Part 1-> Let It Grow
Set II
Scarlet Begonias, Big River, Ramble On Rose, Mexicali Blues, He's Gone-> The Other One-> Spanish Jam-> Heaven Help The Fool Jam-> The Other One-> Stella Blue, Sugar Magnolia, E: Casey Jones, E: U.S. Blues
Set III

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*Phil and Ned Between Sets
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MSR>DAT>CDR; Seeded to etree by Carl Royer
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MultiTrack Master Reel > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD; see info file for notes; via Steve Barbella, Rich Danyko, Matt Vernon
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flac16; Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee mini DAC(monitoring/mastering)>Lynx One soundcard>Wavelab 5.0>DVD, DVD-Audio 2496>DVD-A Explorer>Wavelab 6.1>GEMS Edit Station Weiss Saracon for SRC POWr3 Dither 16bit/44.1 kHz, TradersLilHelper for FLAC 8 SBE Free Tag&Rename for MetaData
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flac24; Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee mini DAC(monitoring/mastering)>Lynx One soundcard>Wavelab 5.0>DVD, DVD-Audio 2496>DVD-A Explorer>Wavelab 6.1>GEMS Edit Station Weiss Saracon for POWr3 Dither 24bit/96 kHz, TradersLilHelper for FLAC 8 SBE Free Tag&Rename for MetaData
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flac24; Partial Set 1 & 2 Source: Room mics * > Master Audience Reel > Reel From The Debbie Stash; Transfer: Reel > Technics RS 1506 > Apogee Mini Me > Mini Dac > Wavelab 5 > wav 24/96; Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX5 Advanced > iZotope Ozone 5 > CD Wave > TLH > flac24; edited and mastered SIRMick
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flac16/48kHz; Soundboard > 1st gen reel > PCM > DAT; Charlie Miller Transfer: Dat (Panasonic SV-3700) > Tascam DA-3000 > wav 16/48; Edited & Mastered in Audacity by Joe Noel; Wave > Flac 16/48; Checksum & tags created in xACT
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Collectors With This Show
User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
KB Larsen (1/5) shn / 1 View 10360
Notes: Thanks stumpy! Incomplete show, no md5, a few flaws but sounds great.
KB Larsen (1/5) shn / 2 View 16189
Notes: Thanks Torbjorn! 3 audio
Hanf (1/5) Shn / 0 View 16189
Kaz (1/5) flac / 0 View  
openpath (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 99031 flac16; Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)
openpath (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 140588 flac16/48kHz; Soundboard > 1st gen reel > PCM > DAT
x poordevil (1/5) cdr SBD / 3 A View 16189 SBD
x poordevil (1/5) dvd shn / 1 View 16189 SBD
J Parzych (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 99032
J Parzych (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 137630
J Parzych (1/5) FLAC / 0 View 140588
OldNeumanntapr (1/5) FLAC / 0 A View 99032 Soundboard Reel
Notes: Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee mini DAC(monitoring/mastering)>Lynx One soundcard>Wavelab 5.0>DVD by Matt Smith DVD-Audio 2496>DVD-A Explorer>Wavelab 6.1>GEMS Edit Station Weiss Saracon for POWr3 Dither 24bit/96 kHz by Jamie Waddell TradersLilHelper for FLAC8 SBE Free Tag&Rename for MetaData Edit notes: These reels have been mastered for better tonal balance. Phil's bass was the center point of this multi track mix down. It was a tad too much to begin. A different feel than the standard vault reel master reel. The highs originally were VERY buried and or decayed and i returned them to a better position in the mix, albeit still a tad distant. This edit was in the works for a couple of months. Lots of our ears LListened as we came to the best balance for the edit. I'm sure you will enjoy.- j.w. Matt said... "I think people will love the 10-17-74. I would put the lineage as 16track>2track for Jerry>?>R(WB@3 3/4 ips.)>DVD/CD. These 10/74 reel copies made by Will back in 1979 were most likely 'work tapes' used by Jerry for production work for the "GD Movie". all the following shows are complete including all the 'seastones' sets so more cool things on the way. Yes, i know there have been multiple versions of these shows but IMHO, these are unique versions that were Jerry's own copies that were dubbed from by Will. Basically these versions were never copied by anyone in will's circle since everyone already had them via rob bertrando and no one at the time bothered to investigate them. Remember, this was 1979 and the GD were still a great behemoth of a touring machine so everyone was more concerned with taping new shows. There is no cassette gen with these as they were straight reel copies that i know for sure so these 24 bit versions esp. are really nice. Whether Jerry had a master of a 2 track mixdown or a copy will never be known for sure but these really do sound fantastic regardless. Much more of a "being there" feeling IMHO.. ENJOY!! ....Stuff from the debbie stash is hard to explain at times and nailing down exact lineages is even harder. either way they all sound fantastic!!! It was the kind of deal where Will suddenly found out about all these reels/cassettes that Jerry "left" there so he copied as much as he could w/o any concern of the exact source. There were TONS of stuff everywhere strewn all over the house.." a **GEMS** Production www.shnflac.net May 2009 -Complete Seastones -listen for a fan scream for mexicali before they play a note of it -Last two minutes of rider patched with alternate aud -Huge Thanks to Matt Smith for the Transfer work and Deadication. -big Thanks To Todd Evans for Project GEMS... " Helpin' to dust off those reels just one more time!!"
Joe (1/5) SHN / 0 View 16189
Imetdork (1/0) SHN / 0 View 16189
aikox2 (1/4.9) / 0 View  
John Peters (1/0) SHN / 1 View 10360 SBD: MR > DAT > CDR > EAC > HD > MKW > SHN
John Peters (1/0) FLAC / 1 View 99031 SBD: Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips. > Akai GX 636 > Apogee Mini Me(24/96) >...
Notes: GEMS
John Peters (1/0) FLAC / 1 View 140588 SBD: Rx1 > PCM > DAT; DAT (Panasonic SV-3700) > Tascam DA-3000 > wav 16/48; Audacity; Wave > Flac...
michael rosenberg (1/5) cdr / 3 a a View 16189 SBD
michael rosenberg (1/5) flac / 1 A A View 140588 Soundboard > 1st gen reel > PCM > DAT
Notes: From the Rich Gastwirt Collection
Richard Markley (1/5) SHN / 2 View   MultiTrack Master Reel > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD
Notes: DVD20
Richard Markley (1/5) SHN / 2 View 16189
Notes: DVD142
James (1/0) / 0 View 99031
Matt Vernon (1/4.8) SHN / 3 B+ A- View 16189
Notes: sbd [2006-08-08] Set 1 has Jerry low in the mix at the start. Not much emotion or energy though well played up to He's Gone. He's Gone fairly quickly morphs into TOO which is the highlight of the show. It is uncluttered and samples a variety of space and themed jams. The rest of the show is standard. Not a must listen execpt for TOO.
Matt Vernon (1/4.8) DNC / 0 View  
Notes: The TC claims set 2 aud attritbuted to Falanga exits
Matt Vernon (1/4.8) SHN / 2 X X View 10360
Notes: MSR>DAT>CDR; Seeded to etree by Carl Royer
Matt Vernon (1/4.8) FLAC / 3 B+ B/A View 99031
Notes: flac16; Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee mini DAC(monitoring/mastering)>Lynx One soundcard>Wavelab 5.0>DVD, DVD-Audio 2496>DVD-A Explorer>Wavelab 6.1>GEMS Edit Station Weiss Saracon for SRC POWr3 Dither 16bit/44.1 kHz, TradersLilHelper for FLAC 8 SBE Free Tag&Rename for MetaData [2009-06-02]I am not a big fan of the Last Ones string of shows - sure there are highlights but overall they seem to have a lumbering feel that never reaches the heights of some of teh June or August 74 shows. This tape also has some sonic issues that one notices - on one of the dates of this run that I worked on I had to repair a lot of isolated instances of bass farts where there was overload that set the waveform to zero.
Matt Vernon (1/4.8) FLAC24 / 5 X X View 99032
Notes: flac24; Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee mini DAC(monitoring/mastering)>Lynx One soundcard>Wavelab 5.0>DVD, DVD-Audio 2496>DVD-A Explorer>Wavelab 6.1>GEMS Edit Station Weiss Saracon for POWr3 Dither 24bit/96 kHz, TradersLilHelper for FLAC 8 SBE Free Tag&Rename for MetaData
SpiralLightofVenus (1/5) FLAC / 0 SBD View 99031
Notes: SBD TB4
SpiralLightofVenus (1/5) FLAC / 0 SBD View 16189
Notes: SBD TB6