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Grateful Dead 12/17/70
Winterland, San Francisco, CA
Set I
Hard To Handle
Candyman
Me And My Uncle
Cold Rain And Snow
Dancing In The Street
Uncle John's Band
Set II
 
Set III
 
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7/17/2018 Update - there is very good evidence and reason to believe that there was NO 12/17/70 show. Not at the Winterland, and not at The Matrix. According to Charlie Miller, this music comes from 10/4/70 & 10/5/70. A series of mixups and confusing events have led to the interpretation of a show on this date. For example, the date 12/17 and 12/23 come from Vault master tapes, but were the mixdown dates, not the event dates. See http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/10/mysterious-case-of-121770.html for all the answers.

The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labeled 12/17/70 - Winterland."

A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tapelists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mislabeled as 12/23/70.
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blackcrowes92 (1/0) FLAC / 1 View 87356
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Notes: 87356 (unknown) The venue is conjectural. Deadlists identifies it as the Matrix, based on Eaton's transcript of the vault reel. However, when Dick copied the show to cassette, he attached the following label: "Here is something I have, that was labelled 12/17/70 - Winterland." A long-standing confusion between this show and the Owsley benefit held at Winterland on 12/23/70, continues to infect GD tape lists. The first four songs, "Hard to Handle" through "Cold Rain and Snow," were put into general circulation by the Bay Area Tapers Group in the mid-1990s, and continue to be mis-labelled as 12/23/70. The last 2 tracks may or may not belong with this!
Dave Mezz (0/0) / 0 View  
BarryW (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Manfred Jungeblut (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Keith (0/0) / 0 A- View  
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evas (0/0) cdr/data / 1 View 87356
stocky (0/0) / 0 A View  
Fred (0/0) / 0 View 87356
[email protected] (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Casey (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Jono (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Tanner (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Nick Gerold (0/1) CDR / 1 View 87356 SBD
Eric Richbourg (0/0) flac / 1 View 87356
Bob Abrams (0/5) FLAC / 1 View 87356
darkstar1964 (0/0) / 0 View 87356
Notes: gd70-12-17.sbd.unk.87356.sbeok.flac