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User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
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Rick Vugteveen (3/0) | SHN / 0 | View | 213 | SBD, with patches (see updated info file for details, including about | ||
Notes: | see the SHN link to read about the lineage of this seed. The source info is not large enough to explain everything. | |||||
Jim Decker (3/5) | CDR / 3 | A+ | View | AUD | ||
Jeremy (3/5) | cdr / 3 | View | ||||
bill goss (3/0) | CD / 3 | View | SB?>CD | |||
Robert D. O'Brien (3/0) | / 3 | A | A | View | DSBD | |
mike patton (3/0) | cdr / 3 | View | no seastones | |||
Josh Munter (3/0) | cdr / 3 | View | ||||
Graig Kreindler (3/5) | cd / 3 | A | View | SBD>MR>C>DAT>CD | ||
Notes: | Missing Seastones and there are cuts in Let it Grow and US Blues. Another wonderful show!! | |||||
Scott S (3/0) | CDR / 3 | View | 213 | |||
Steve de Carteret (3/0) | CDR / 3 | View | SBD | |||
Seminole Steve (3/0) | CDR, 2 SHN / 3 | View | SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card >Samplitude 2496 > Plextor... | |||
Scott Jennings (3/0) | shn / 2 | View | SBD>ReelM>DAT>Cassette>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor... | |||
JEM (3/5) | Cdr / 3 | A | View | Sbrd | ||
ribswhiskey (3/5) | shn / 2 | View | 7894 | AUDMR>R>DAT/1>HD>SHN>CD | ||
Tripp Wojohn (3/4) | SHN / 2 | View | AUDMR>R>DAT/1>HD>SHN>CD | |||
Darkstar (3/4.3) | cdr / 3 | A+ | View | |||
Notes: | All | |||||
Micheal Roberts (3/0) | / 3 | View | SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor... | |||
Notes: | BAND Grateful Dead VENUE Jai-Alai Fronton CITY Miami STATE FL DATE 6/23/74 [Additional note on disc assembly from Josh (more details below)]: "Two tracks, D1T3 and D3T1, don't have song titles. In the case of D1T3, it's there so that the previous AUD/SBD mixed Ramble On Rose track is the same length (well, nearly so, I goofed slightly I guess) as the straight-SBD RoR at the end of Disk three, so that purists can take out the mixed RoR and swap in the straight-SBD one if they want to rearrange the tracks on Disk1. It was that or else make the straight-SBD RoR about :58 longer. D3T1 mini-track is there so that I can have a proper track marker at the start of Dark Star." Source Lineage: SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor 820 burner * AUD >?>FM>cassette>A/D: Panasonic 3700>Prodif Plus>Samp2496 (Broadcast by WHRB-FM during Grateful Dead Orgy, early 1980's.) ** "Phil's Tape" SBD? >?>DAT(n) >Prodif Plus > Samp2496 Sound processing: AUD source: Dehum, Denoise, Timestretched to match SBD speed "Phil's Tape" SBD: Timestretched to match SBD speed The "Phil's Tape" source is probably the one mentioned in www.deadlists.com, "made by Phil with mikes onstage", since the tape has no cuts. The AUD source is probably the one mentioned in Taper's Compendium Vol. 1: Jerry Moore & Les Kippel , AKG D-200 mikes > Sony 152 deck Mastered Dec '99/Jan '00 by Josh Belkin [email protected] DISK ONE Set One: [68:37] 1. ...testing...this is a test... * [1:43] 2. Ramble On Rose @ [6:25] 3. [ :58] 4. Black Throated Wind [6:55] 5. ...Bermuda Triangle microphone weirdness... & [3:45] 6. Intro> [ :55] 7. Half-Step [7:43] 8. Beat It On Down the Line [4:00] 9. Row Jimmy Row ** [7:56] 10. Jackstraw [5:18] 11. Let It Rock [4:12] 12. Cumberland Blues [6:11] 13. El Paso [4:35] 14. To Lay me Down [7:59] * AUD & about 20s in middle patched from AUD @ mix of AUD + SBD sources until [2:13], then all SBD ** last 35 sec. patched from the "Phil's Tape" source ----------------- DISK TWO Set One: [52:02] 1. Weather Report Suite Prelude > [1:39] 2. Weather Report Suite Part 1 > [4:18] 3. Let It Grow > ** [10:36] 4. China Doll [5:32] Set Two: 5. Ship of Fools Instrumental Jam > [4:10] 6. Ship of Fools [6:06] 7. Big River [4:51] 8. Black Peter [9:30] 9. Around and Around [5:18] ** ~20 seconds missing from SBD were patched from "Phil's Tape" ----------------- DISK THREE Set Two, continued: [73:28] 1. [ :14] 2. Dark Star > [17:33] 3. Spanish Jam > [4:16] 4. U.S. Blues ** [8:19] 5. Uncle John's Band [7:56] 6. One More Saturday Night [5:29] 7. e: Casey Jones [6:41] 8. Ramble On Rose - unprocessed AUD [8:01] 9. Ramble On Rose - processed AUD [7:55] 10. Ramble On Rose - straight SBD [6:29] (not mixed with AUD, not Denoised) ** ~20 seconds missing from SBD were patched from "Phil's Tape" -- additional comments from Darrin Sacks: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:29:19 -0700 From: "Darrin N. Sacks" To: [email protected] Subject: [etree] Grateful Dead 6.23.74 - Patched has NO noise reduction Hi, A newly circulating show has an erroneous info file attached to it -- Contrary to the statement in the info file accompanying the 6.23.74 patched soundboard that is circulating, the primary soundboard source used for this show (the SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>) that was used for all but a few short segments was NOT subject to noise reduction. Although Josh, the guy who performed the tremendous job of splicing in the cuts on the primary soundboard from previously circulating audience and alternate soundboard sources, did digitally process the alternate sources (he time aligned them and denoised/dehummed them), he did not perform noise reduction on the primary soundboard source that is circulating on the etree. This misunderstanding occurred because Josh did perform noise reduction on the primary soundboard source that he traded to a few of his friends. However, we collectively decided that the version circulated on the etree & on alt.binaries.gdead should not contain noise reduction -- and it does not. Josh accidentally sent out cd covers to the etree and alt.binaries.gdead seed sources for this show indicating that the primary soundboard source was processed with noise reduction -- which it was not. So, please disregard this annotation and don't pass up this gem of a show on the mistaken understanding that it contains noise reduction. While I'm on the topic, I should also point out that disk 3 of the show was redone and re-seeded after its initial seeding to the etree. The show should not have been distributed prior to the updated disk 3's seeding, but its easy to tell if you have the "correct" disk 3 -- it has ten tracks. Disk 3 was reseeded because, after Josh initially distributed the show, we discovered that there was a reel flip in the middle of US Blues. On So Many Roads, this reel flip was edited out by removing a chunk of the song (see the liner notes). On the re-seeded version, this 20 second gap (pretty impressive timing for re-threading a reel-to-reel deck, imho), was spliced in from what is believed to be a stage miced version recorded by Phil (the prior version had a cut at this point). This is the only difference. That ought to do it -- given the recent thread regarding the "evils" of noise reduction, I didn't want this amazing show & work of restoration to be passed by. My advice -- download and uncompress a track or 2 (Josh's blending of the aud source with the sbd source on Ramble On Rose -- d1t1 -- is amazing, and the Dark Star -- d3t1 -- sounds fabulous and allows people with SMR to compare this source's sound quality to the very same song on SMR) and decide what to do from there. Siteops hosting this show -- it would be nice if you modified the info file to remove the erroneous noise reduction info. Darrin | |||||
jake (3/0) | CDR / 3 | A | View | see notes | ||
Notes: | Complete Source Lineage: SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT(3)>Prodif Plus card > Samplitude 2496 > Plextor 820 burner > CDRx1 > EAC > SHN Missing parts of the SBD supplied by: * AUD >?>FM>cassette>A/D: Panasonic 3700>Prodif Plus>Samp2496>CDRx1>EAC>SHN (Broadcast by WHRB-FM during Grateful Dead Orgy, early 1980?s.) ** SBD >?>DAT(n) >Prodif Plus > Samp2496>CDRx1>EAC>SHN Sound processing: SBD source: Denoise, 6db reduction AUD source: Dehum, Denoise, Timestretched to match SBD speed Alternate SBD: Timestretched to match SBD speed The AUD source is probably the one mentioned in Taper?s Compendium Vol. 1: Jerry Moore & Les Kippel , AKG D-200 mikes > Sony 152 deck. DISC1 Intro (this is only a test...) [1:43] (AUD>?>FM>Cass>DAT>CDR) Ramble On Rose [6:24] (AUD (as above pitch corrected to match SDBD) crossfades to SBD>MR>C>DAT>CDR) Tuning [:58] (reel starts and restarts) Black Throated Wind [6:43] Bermuda Triangle Rap [3:45] (SBD to Aud back to SBD) Intro [:54] > Mississippi Half Step [7:43] Beat It On Down The Line [4:00] Row Jimmy [7:55] (SBD>MR>Cass>DAT>CDR last :45 spliced from SBD>?>DAT>CDR) Jack Straw [5:17] Let It Rock [4:12] Cumberland Blues [6:11] El Paso [4:34] To Lay Me Down [7:58] DISC2 Weather Report Suite Prelude [1:39] > Weather Report Suite Part 1 [4:18] > Let It Grow [10:35] > (SBD>MR>Cass>DAT>CDR :20 in middle spliced from SBD>?>DAT>CDR) China Doll [5:32] --set 2 begins -- Space (Ship of Fools Instrumental) [4:10] > Ship Of Fools [6:05] Big River [4:51] Black Peter [9:29] Around & Around [5:18] DISC3 Dark Star Jam > Spanish Jam > U.S. Blues * (reel splice not patched in...this us blues is on smr with a verse cut out to 'mask' the reel splice.. check it out) Uncle John's Band > One More Saturday Night (tiny hit of d/n at 3:13) ENCORE Casey Jones (really tiny hit of d/n at :11) Ramble On Rose * the original unretouched AUD, complete stage talk and RoR. Ramble On Rose * the AUD dehummed, denoised, and timestretched to match the SDBD. Ramble On Rose * the original unmixed-with-AUD SBD RoR. Play this track to hear how goofy the mix is till Jerry's guitar gets dialed up. This is why The AUD was mixed in. From original seed provided by Josh Belkin who's also responsible for one of the nicest crossfades from a SBD>AUD that I've ever heard. This version is painstakingly complete and being from 6/74, represents the Dead at one of their many peaks..... | |||||
Ryan Wojno (3/0) | CDR / 3 | A | View | SBD | ||
Curtis Litzler (3/4) | cdr / 3 | A | View | |||
Jack Cummiskey (3/0) | shn / 2 | View | SBD>ReelM>DAT>CassetteM>DAT | |||
Greg Berberich (3/0) | CDR / 3 | View | 213 | |||
Notes: | No SHN | |||||
Brian O'Connor (3/0) | CDR / 2 | A | View | |||
Hunter Best (3/5) | CD-R / 3 | A | A | View | 16780 | SBD > RR > DAT > CD |
ScottB (3/0) | CDR / 3 | View | 7894 | AUD MR> R> DAT/1> HD> SHN> CD; recorded by Neil Merin - unknown mics > Uhrer 5"... | ||
Greg Hosmer (3/0) | shn / 2 | View | ||||
Mike Baxter (3/0) | CDR / 3 | A | A | View | ||
Mike Baxter (3/0) | CDR / 3 | A | A | View | ||
michael dietrich (3/5) | shn / 2 | View | 213 | |||
mike oberg (3/0) | CD-R / 3 | A+ | View | SBD | ||
Notes: | Only "Let It Rock" |