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Set I
Pop Hit 89 (Pop Song 89)
Orange Crush
Get Up (instrumental)
I Remember California
Untitled Instrumental 1
Title (instrumental)
Great Big (instrumental)
Untitled Instrumental 2
The Wrong Child (instrumental)
Get Up (vocal)
So Awake, Volunteer (The Eleventh Untitled Song) (instrumental)
Hairshirt (instrumental)
You Are The Everything
Stand
Orange Crush
Get Up (instrumental)
I Remember California
Untitled Instrumental 1
Title (instrumental)
Great Big (instrumental)
Untitled Instrumental 2
The Wrong Child (instrumental)
Get Up (vocal)
So Awake, Volunteer (The Eleventh Untitled Song) (instrumental)
Hairshirt (instrumental)
You Are The Everything
Stand
Set II
Set III
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R.E.M.
The Complete Green Demos
John Keane's Studios, Athens, GA / Bearsville Studios, NY
This boot has an interesting story behind it. I used to go every month, religiously, to a record show at
the Holiday Inn in Hillside, IL back in the mid-90s. Usually it would be the same pile of crap at every dealer,
with the odd surprise find every now and then.
This was one of them.
An elderly lady was minding her son's table, whereby he had about a half-dozen cassettes in a box amongst
the Zeppelin bootlegs he was selling. I was quite surprised to see a cassette labeled "Green demos" amongst
the crap he had, and for $2.00, snapped it up. I normally didn't buy bootleg tapes but from the tracklisting
I could tell this was something special. I never did meet the guy whose table it was, so I was never able
to confirm lineage or the source.
This tape not only contained all the previously-known Green demos floating about on various bootlegs, but it
ALSO had 3 additional songs that I do not believe EVER appeared on any boots. In fact I don't think that prior
to me trading this tape, these three tracks were known amongst collectors to exist as "Green demos".
The three songs are:
09 - The Wrong Child (instrumental) --- much longer than Green version
10 - Get Up (Vocal) --- partially written lyric, with music boxes but different musical backing tracks
14 - Stand --- no wah-wah guitar solo, different musical backing tracks
I confirmed the above with Todd Ploharski, owner of Athens, GA's Low Yo Yo record store and one of the scene's
biggest REM collectors. If it existed in the REM trader/collector universe, Todd knew about it (if he didn't
actually have it himself). He'd never seen these three songs out there anywhere.
I suspect this originated with either a band member late in the Bearsville sessions or a Bearsville studio staff
person because of the development stages of the songs (i.e. the music boxes on "Get Up" - the idea came in a dream
Bill Berry had late in the day while the band were recording at Bearsville, and the previously-leaked instrumental
demo does not have the music box interlude). If the newly-discovered songs were simply tacked on the end of a tape of previously-leaked demos that would be one thing - but since they were interspersed amongst the others I think
this is a different source altogether than the one used to seed all the boots containing Green demos ("Sleeping
Songs", "Archival Footage", etc...). Furthermore the 4 unreleased instrumental tracks are FAR better quality here
than any of the pre-existing bootleg releases.
The Complete Green Demos
John Keane's Studios, Athens, GA / Bearsville Studios, NY
This boot has an interesting story behind it. I used to go every month, religiously, to a record show at
the Holiday Inn in Hillside, IL back in the mid-90s. Usually it would be the same pile of crap at every dealer,
with the odd surprise find every now and then.
This was one of them.
An elderly lady was minding her son's table, whereby he had about a half-dozen cassettes in a box amongst
the Zeppelin bootlegs he was selling. I was quite surprised to see a cassette labeled "Green demos" amongst
the crap he had, and for $2.00, snapped it up. I normally didn't buy bootleg tapes but from the tracklisting
I could tell this was something special. I never did meet the guy whose table it was, so I was never able
to confirm lineage or the source.
This tape not only contained all the previously-known Green demos floating about on various bootlegs, but it
ALSO had 3 additional songs that I do not believe EVER appeared on any boots. In fact I don't think that prior
to me trading this tape, these three tracks were known amongst collectors to exist as "Green demos".
The three songs are:
09 - The Wrong Child (instrumental) --- much longer than Green version
10 - Get Up (Vocal) --- partially written lyric, with music boxes but different musical backing tracks
14 - Stand --- no wah-wah guitar solo, different musical backing tracks
I confirmed the above with Todd Ploharski, owner of Athens, GA's Low Yo Yo record store and one of the scene's
biggest REM collectors. If it existed in the REM trader/collector universe, Todd knew about it (if he didn't
actually have it himself). He'd never seen these three songs out there anywhere.
I suspect this originated with either a band member late in the Bearsville sessions or a Bearsville studio staff
person because of the development stages of the songs (i.e. the music boxes on "Get Up" - the idea came in a dream
Bill Berry had late in the day while the band were recording at Bearsville, and the previously-leaked instrumental
demo does not have the music box interlude). If the newly-discovered songs were simply tacked on the end of a tape of previously-leaked demos that would be one thing - but since they were interspersed amongst the others I think
this is a different source altogether than the one used to seed all the boots containing Green demos ("Sleeping
Songs", "Archival Footage", etc...). Furthermore the 4 unreleased instrumental tracks are FAR better quality here
than any of the pre-existing bootleg releases.
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Lukas Karlsson
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Collectors With This Show
| User (active/rating) | Media / # | Show | Sound | Details | DB Source | User Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tulum (5/0) | FLAC / 14 | View | Kipco's FLACs -> Mastering/EQ tools @ 32bit -> Secret sauce -> Dither to 16bit -> FLAC level 8 ->... | |||
| Notes: | So here we are again. I posted this "session" initially on STG back a thousand years ago, I was the first person to put this material on the internets. Here's my initial textfile language: "This boot has an interesting story behind it. I used to go every month, religiously, to a record show at the Holiday Inn in Hillside, IL back in the mid-90s. Usually it would be the same pile of crap at every dealer, with the odd surprise find every now and then. This was one of them. An elderly lady was minding her son's table, whereby he had about a half-dozen cassettes in a box amongst the Zeppelin bootlegs he was selling. I was quite surprised to see a cassette labeled "Green demos" amongst the crap he had, and for $2.00, snapped it up. I normally didn't buy bootleg tapes but from the tracklisting I could tell this was something special. I never did meet the guy whose table it was, so I was never able to confirm lineage or the source. This tape not only contained all the previously-known Green demos floating about on various bootlegs, but it ALSO had 3 additional songs that I do not believe EVER appeared on any boots. In fact I don't think that prior to me trading this tape, these three tracks were known amongst collectors to exist as "Green demos". The three songs are: 09 - Stand --- no wah-wah guitar solo, different backing tracks 11 - The Wrong Child (instrumental) --- much longer than Green version 14 - Get Up (Vocal) --- partially written lyric, with music boxes but different backing tracks I confirmed the above with Todd Ploharski, owner of Athens, GA's Low Yo Yo record store and one of the scene's biggest REM collectors. If it existed in the REM trader/collector universe, Todd knew about it (if he didn't actually have it himself). He'd never seen these three songs out there anywhere. I suspect this originated with either a band member late in the Bearsville sessions or a Bearsville studio staff person because of the development stages of the songs (i.e. the music boxes on "Get Up" - the idea came in a dream Bill Berry had late in the day while the band were recording at Bearsville, and the previously-leaked instrumental demo does not have the music box interlude). If the newly-discovered songs were simply tacked on the end of a tape of previously-leaked demos that would be one thing - but since they were interspersed amongst the others I think this is a different source altogether than the one used to seed all the boots containing Green demos ("Sleeping Songs", "Archival Footage", etc...). Furthermore the 4 unreleased instrumental tracks are FAR better quality here than any of the pre-existing bootleg releases. If any of you were part of the REM Trade Ring in 1999 or so and got these there, I was the source for that. This is from the original CD-R I made for that." ------------------------ Now, that CD-R variant (and the 2004-era STG seed) was mucked with in my younger years. Recklessly, foolishly ruined, some would say. So up stepped a kind soul named Kipco who greatly moved matters forward, posting a previously-unknown second source of this material (also on STG intially, and later on DIME). Kipco notes: ------------------------ "NOW..... The fact is, I know the "elderly lady and her son" who were at the Hillside show that day, and the copy that was sold originated with ME! I traded him a copy not long after I got it, which was like 1990 or so. I got it from a guy I knew from Wisconsin who used to come up with amazing REM stuff. I mentioned this tape in the original STG comments, and was beseeched by requests to seed it, but didn't know how to do it at the time. This is at least two generations up from the previously seeded versions of this. It should be an upgrade to everyone who snagged the one before. The track order is also slightly different. My original tape had one track repeated twice (track 12 instrumental). My tape also had "See No Evil" tacked on the end, but I don't know if it was part of the original demos or not. Enjoy! Keep your windows open, too! cass (VERY low gen)/hard drive (sound forge)>flac level 8" ------------------------ So, a thousand years ago I downloaded Kipco's tape - being an upgrade, hell yeah! And then I sat on it. For years and years. Always meaning to fix it up. And here we finally are. This is near release-quality - just check the sample below. What's different? I didn't include Kipco's "See No Evil" because it's been officially released on a Fan Club single. And I've also taken the opportunity to retitle one of the instrumental tracks per Marcus Grey's "It Crawled From The South" as "The Last R.E.M. Song" - Grey refers to a Green demo track that the band deemed far too typical REM-like and thusly binned it, after naming it "The Last R.E.M. Song" - the one listed here as such certainly is the most "classic" REM-sounding track of the bunch, by far. | |||||
| Jack Warner (5/5) | FLAC / 0 | View | Studio>?>C>FLAC | |||
| afterdinnermint (5/5) | CDR / 1 | A | View | |||
| Notes: | Really cool early versions of some of their best stuff. Sound has been well preserved, although Stand cuts right at the last "stand", no fade. Still, a great little disc. | |||||
| Gary (5/4.3) | CDR / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Studio>?>C>Flac | |||||
| Brandon Moeller (5/5) | CD-R / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Downloaded from thetradersden.org | |||||
| Shin (5/5) | CDR / 1 | A | View | SBD | ||
| Mary Bloom (5/4.9) | cdr / 1 | View | ||||
| gabriel ricard (5/4.9) | cdr / 1 | View | ||||
| dazzer3435 (5/5) | CDR / 1 | A | View | STU | ||
| Dave (5/0) | / 1 | View | ||||
| Bryan (5/0) | / 1 | View | Studio --> ??? --> Unknown-gen cassette -> SBLive --> CD-Wave --> CDR --> CDex... | |||
| Tom Wilder (5/4.3) | 1FLAC 1CDR / 1 | View | ||||
| Aaron (5/4.8) | FLAC / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | The Complete Green Demos | |||||
| eclect (4/4.4) | FLAC / 1 | A+ | A- | View | cass (VERY low gen)/hard drive (sound forge)>flac | |
| adorup (4/0) | FLAC / 0 | View | ||||
| Rian (4/4) | cdr / 1 | A- | A- | View | Studio | |
| ian kell (4/5) | CDR / 1 | View | ||||
| ian kell (4/5) | CDR / 1 | View | ||||
| Notes: | Identical to ?/?/88 | |||||
| Chris Sikich (4/0) | CDR / 1 | A | View | Complete Green Demos bootleg Cassette>SBLive> CD-Wave>CDR>CDex>FLAC | ||
| Notes: | Soundboard recording. 14 tracks. | |||||
| zowie (3/5) | cd / 1 | a- | View | std | ||
| S. (3/5) | SHN 321mb / 0 | A | View | cassette --> SBLive --> CD-Wave --> CDR --> CDex --> SHN | ||
| Notes: | ? A/A- ? 01 Pop Hit 89 (Pop Song 89) 02 Orange Crush 03 Get Up (instrumental) 04 I Remember California 05 Untitled Instrumental 1 06 Title (instrumental) 07 Great Big (instrumental) 08 Untitled Instrumental 2 09 The Wrong Child (instrumental) 10 Get Up (vocal) 11 So Awake, Volunteer (The Eleventh Untitled Song) (instrumental) 12 Hairshirt (instrumental) 13 You Are The Everything 14 Stand | |||||
| Jason Smoliak (3/5) | Audio / 1 | View | cass (VERY low gen)/hard drive (sound forge)>flac level 8 | |||
| Rick Maxwell (3/5) | FLAC / 1 | View | Studio | |||
| Notes: | The Complete Green Demos UPGRADE John Keane's Studios, Athens, GA / Bearsville Studios, NY 1988 Contents: 01 Pop Hit 89 (Pop Song 89) 02 Orange Crush 03 Get Up (instrumental) 04 I Remember California 05 Untitled Instrumental 1 06 Title (instrumental) 07 Hairshirt (instrumental) 08 Untitled Instrumental 2 09 Stand (slower) 10 You Are The Everything (early version with bass, additional backing vocals) 11 The Wrong Child (instrumental) 12) Untitled Instrumental 3 13) Untitled Instrumental 4 14) Get Up (vocal) 15) See No Evil | |||||
| Alexey Andreychuk (3/4.7) | cd-r / 1 | A- | View | std | ||
| audiowhore (3/5) | CDR / 1 | A- | View | |||
| funkyratchet (3/5) | CDR / 1 | View | studio | |||
| Roxy (3/0) | cd-r / 1 | A | View | |||
| itooktoomuch (2/0) | FLAC / 1 | View | STUDIO | |||
| slugline (2/0) | / 0 | View | not identified | |||
| Notes: | labeled "upgrade" | |||||
| cut_here (2/5) | flac / 1 | B+ | View | cass (VERY low gen)/hard drive (sound forge)>flac level 8 | ||
| Notes: | new upgrade | |||||