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Grateful Dead 11/16/70
Fillmore East, New York, NY
Set I
Good Lovin'*
Set II
Casey Jones, Friend Of The Devil, Cold Rain And Snow, I'm A King Bee > China Cat Sunflower, Jam > I Know You Rider, Mama Tried, Truckin' > The Other One, Hard To Handle, Big Railroad Blues, Drums > Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away, Uncle John's Band
Set III
 
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*with Jorma Kaukonen- could be from Hot Tuna's set with Dead members sitting in; Other artist(s): Hot Tuna; NRPS; note setlist update 9/2004: according to deadlists.com, this date's set 2 may have been what has circulated for years labelled as "Andersen Theater 11/23/70"
Last Changed By Hamilton, Greg & Diana
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SBDMR> DAT> CD-r> EAC> SHN; fits on 1x80; retracked and seeded by Mike Lai; reportedly chopped up, as are previous seeds
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SBD:MR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" ? track Reel @ 7.5ips > Revox B77 playback deck > Alesis Masterlink ML9600 > CD > EAC > Cool Edit 2000 > SHN. A>D by Bill Gadsden. encoding Dave Winters. (Note: Other shn sets assign this music to 11/23/70).
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flac16; SBD > RR > ? > ? > Cassette; Transfer Info: Nak MR2 Deck > Cassette > WAV >Soundforge > FLAC
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flac16; Partial; Lineage: aud>?>Rich>nak>nak dolby C> XLII C90, from Rich Petlock; Transfer: Dragon dolby C>UA55>usb> Audacity>TLH>flac16
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Collectors With This Show
User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Buddy (4/5) CDR / 1 View   Unknown
Notes: One disc partial recording. I will update what disc contains when I have time.
Buddy (4/5) CDR / 2 View 17361 SBD:MR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" � track Reel @ 7.5ips > Revox B77 playback deck >...
Notes: See SHN link for show information.
John (4/0) / 1 View 17361 SBD:MR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" � track Reel @ 7.5ips > Revox B77 playback deck >...
2-Bit (4/5) / 2 A View   SBD
Notes: Some Glitches. With Steve Winwood. This Show Rocks!
Todd Lackey (4/5) fuji / 1 aud View 4734 SBDMR>DAT>CD-r>EAC>SHN
Shane Ebelhar (4/5) cdr / 1 View   SBD
Notes: Hells Angels Benefit
Chuck Gannon (4/5) SHN / 1 View 17361 MSR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" 1/4 track Reel @ 7.5ips>Revox B77 playback...
pmags (4/2.5) shn / 1 View 4734
peter Cratin (4/0) CDR / 2 View  
Butch Ammons (4/0) CD / 1 View  
Paulie Ross (4/0) cdr / 2 A- A- View   sbd
James Griffin (4/0) CDR,SHN / 1 View 4734 SBD>MR>DAT>WAV>SHN
Rodney (4/3) 90 / 1 B+ View   Aud
Notes: All
Isaac (4/0) / 1 View  
Notes: w/steve winwood
Wesley Best (4/5) CD / 2 A- View  
JoeC (4/0) / 2 View  
Notes: with Steve Winwood & Will Scarlett
J. Carter (3/0) FLAC / 1 View   Unknown >WAV > SHN > WAV > FLAC
Gene Rider (3/0) WMA / 2 View 17361
Notes: Source: SBD:MR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" º track Reel @ 7.5ips> Revox B77 playback deck>Alesis Masterlink ML9600>CD> EAC>Cool Edit 2000>SHN. A>D by Bill Gadsden. Cool Edit 2000 was used for minor glitch removal. CDWav was used to retrack both discs. EAC(secure mode, offset corrected), seekable shorten encoding with MKW, and sector boundaries verified via shntool by D. Winters. * Steve Winwood on Pigpen's Hammond Organ. Steve Winwood also provides vocal accompaniment on NFA>GDTRFB>NFA and 1st vocal verse of NFA. + Will Scarlet on harmonica. Notes: D1T03 - Analog distortions and channel dropouts from unknown source, possibly a loose plug in the master reel to reel deck. D1T04 - Approximately 30 seconds missing. D1T11 - First few seconds clipped. D1T14 - Some distortion of Steve Winwood's vocals at the very end. As with any 30-year-old tape, various analog gremlins and anomalies exist. ----------------------Background----------------------------------- This is the concert formerly thought to have taken place on 11/23/70 at the Anderson Theater in New York City. This show has been shrouded in mystery and confusion over the last 30 years ever since it first entered circulation in 1973. However, fresh research has unveiled what is most likely the true story behind this classic Grateful Dead show. On 11/14/70 at Frank Zappa's Fillmore East Late Show, Grace Slick came out on stage, on behalf of Bill Graham, to announce an unscheduled concert featuring the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane the following Monday, November 16th. As it turned out, the Airplane were in the middle of breaking up and Grace was pregnant. So instead of the Airplane, Hot Tuna filled in to share the bill with the Dead. A few days later, on November 18th and 19th, Traffic played at the Fillmore. There are several pieces of evidence which now point directly to the "11/23/70 Anderson Theater" show being correctly identified as Fillmore East 11/16/70. 1) Traffic has been confirmed, in a letter written by the Kleinhans Music Hall, as having played at the Kleinhans Music Hall, Buffalo, NY on 11/23/70. This firmly places them out of New York City on that date. Thanks to Greg Shaw for this help. 2) Bill Graham introduces the Dead. The identification of his voice is clear, as never before, on this new transfer. Bill Graham and the owner of the Anderson Theater were not friendly with each other and Bill Graham would never have introduced the Grateful Dead in the Anderson Theater. 3) A 1:55 snippet of Hot Tuna playing Hesitation Blues precedes the Dead's show on the first generation 10" reel. 4) After Bob Weir sings the Frozen Logger off-mic, several people on stage can be heard attempting to get Jack Casady to join in saying, "Hey Casady, why don't you play" and "Hey Jack, hey Jack, c'mon up". Hot Tuna played on 11/16/70 at the Fillmore and they are not known to have played at the Anderson Theater. 5) An eyewitness who attended the 11/16/70 Fillmore show clearly recalls Steve Winwood and Jorma Kaukonen sitting in with the Dead. 6) Music was commonly played over the P.A. between sets at the Fillmore to promote upcoming shows. Elton John played at the Fillmore East the following weekend, November 20th and 21st as the warm up for Leon Russell. This was his first New Y
Jeff Hyman (3/5) cdr / 2 View   sbd
Notes: w/ Traffic?
Jeff Hyman (3/5) cdr / 2 A View 17361 sbd
Notes: Steve Winwood sits in on several; Will Scarlet on several
timmy b (3/5) cdr / 2 View 17361
john zicconi (3/5) FLAC / 0 View   SBD:MR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" º track Reel @ 7.5ips>Revox B77 playback deck>Alesis...
Notes: Song order is a little different than what is listed on etree. Steve Winwood on Hard to Handle, Railroad Blues, Fadeaway and Goin' Down the Road.
Carl (3/0) CD-R / 2 View 17361 SBD:MR>Revox deck (model unknown): 10" ? track Reel @ 7.5ips > Revox B77 playback deck >...
Boisedeadhead (3/0) CDR / 1 View 4734 SBDMR>DAT>CD-r>EAC>SHN
Notes: fits on an 80 min cdr. re-tracked by mike lai stellablue.etree.org [email protected] This is all I have as of now. When I get time, I'll go through it and time it. I DO know that there are quite a few cuts and missing songs here. But what is here IS awesome! Tracks may be out of order, at least according to deadbase. track listing provided from comment by Richard Tressider, 3/29/2006: 1. Casey Jones (04:32) 2. // Friend of the Devil (02:12) 3. Cold Rain and Snow (06:06) 4. King Bee (07:24) 5. // I Know You Rider (05:43) 6. // Hard to Handle (04:58) 7. // Big Railroad Blues (05:23) 8. Mama Tried (02:48) 9. Not Fadeaway -> ** (09:26) 10. Goin' Down the Road -> ** (05:56) 11. Not Fadeaway ** (02:33) 12. Truckin' -> * (09:01) 13. The Other One * (08:04) * with Will Scott on harmonica ** with Winwood, Capaldi, Wood and Ramblin' Jack Elliot $2.00 benifit for NYC Hell's Angels Missing "Chinacat Sunflower", "Uncle John's Band", maybe more.
joe m (3/5) shn / 1 View 17361
Michael (3/0) SHN / 1 View 17361
zowie (3/5) cd / 2 a View 17361 sdb
cbass (3/5) / 0 View 17361
cbass (3/5) SHN / 0 View 4734
cbass (3/5) FLAC / 0 View 135717