Grateful Dead 04/11/1972

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Date: 04/11/72
Year: 1972
Venue: Newcastle City Hall
City: Newcastle
State: England

Set I

Greatest Story Ever Told, Deal, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, Tennessee Jed, Big Boss Man, Beat It On Down The Line, Sugaree, Jack Straw, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Playin' In The Band, Next Time You See Me, Brown Eyed Women, Looks Like Rain, Big Railroad Blues, Casey Jones

Set II

Good Lovin', Ramble On Rose, Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One-> Comes A Time-> Sugar Magnolia, E: Brokedown Palace

Set III

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SBD> MC> D> CD> SHN; some Soundforge editing; see info file for flaw notes; via thecore

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remastered by Bill Giles - source is SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD See info file for flaws & Bill's mastering notes

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flac16; Source: SBD Lineage: MR(recorded by Rex Jackson)>R(JG)>R(WB)>CD transfer info:Maxell UD XL reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee Mini DAC(monitoring)>LYNX ONE soundcard>Wavelab 5.0(dithered to 20/44)>CD.

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User (active/rating)	Media / #	Show	Sound	Details	DB Source	User Source
Chuck Gannon (4/5)	SHN / 2			View	12186	MSC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD>SHN
Erik Feick (4/5)	CD-R / 3			View	4640	SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD
Notes:	sound is generally a bit muddy, some hiss Pigpen's voice is almost inaudible at times and sometimes distortion & pops from Keith's piano pick-up, the best & most complete version currently in circulation a lot of minor anomalies (mainly clicks) throughout discs 1 + 2 d3t03: tape warble @18:47-18:52, sounds like a master cassette flaw d1t06: very beginning is missing (a few seconds worth) Bill Giles remastering notes: "What do you do with an excellent concert that circulates digitally on muddy CD only and for which cassette copies, while superficially brighter, carry a lot of noise and distortion? Frustrating. I suspect the CD's lack of edge is the result of an uninspired noise reduction job [which makes the MC>D>CD lineage questionable]. I've simply tried to brighten it up by re-equalisation. I've also rebalanced the tracks (the right track was relatively overweight) and attenuated a few glitches. It ain't great, but it's definitely better. From the master disc, the opening notes of Big Boss Man are missing, and the start of Good Lovin' is an AUD patch; and there are some crackles, particularly in Brown-Eyed Women and Truckin', and a number of drop-outs and wobbles throughout the concert. I would not describe it as 'remastered' - just 'tidied up'. I guess linage should read: MR>??>CDR>Sound Forge 4.5>CDR"
pmags (4/2.5)	shn / 2			View	4640
Harland (4/5)	SHN / 2			View	4640	SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD
Sara (4/0)	CDR / 3	A	A	View
arapahoe (4/0)	CDR / 3		A+	View		Soundboard
Ulrich Braasch (4/0)	CD-R / 3			View		MR>DAT>CD-R
Brad Stoll (4/5)	CDR / 3			View
Notes:	SBDMC:DAT>CD
mark sweeney (4/5)	cdr / 3			View		mr>c>dat>cdr
Notes:	mr>c>dat>cdr
Jon Paulk (4/5)	shn / 3			View	12186	SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD
Rob Lee (4/0)	SHN / 2			View		SBD MC > D > CD > SoundForge > CD
Notes:	Grateful Dead 4/11/72 City Hall, Newcastle, England SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD (see below) remastered by Bill Giles (http://www.ridethewind.btinternet.co.uk/Re-Masters.htm) CD 1. 1. Greatest Story Ever Told 2. Deal 3. Mr. Charlie 4. Black-Throated Wind 5. Tennessee Jed 6. Big Boss Man 7. Beat It On Down The Line 8. Sugaree 9. Jack Straw 10. Chinatown Shuffle 11. China Cat Sunflower -> 12. I Know You Rider CD 2. 1. Playing In The Band 2. Next Time You See Me 3. Brown-Eyed Women 4. Looks Like Rain 5. Big Railroad Blues 6. Casey Jones 7. Good Lovin' 8. Ramble On Rose CD 3. 1. Truckin' -> 2. Drums -> 3. The Other One -> 4. Comes A Time 5. Sugar Magnolia 6. E: Brokedown Palace sound is generally a bit muddy, some hiss Pigpen's voice is almost inaudible at times and sometimes distortion & pops from Keith's piano pick-up, the best & most complete version currently in circulation a lot of minor anomalies (mainly clicks) throughout discs 1 + 2 d3t03: tape warble @18:47-18:52, sounds like a master cassette flaw d1t06: very beginning is missing (a few seconds worth) this show was treed on the Eurotraders list by Hanno Bunjes a while ago. i received his version, too, and to my surprise found that it sounded flatter and muddier than my old hissy unknown-gen tapes of the show. therefore, i sent both Hanno?s discs and my tapes to Bill Giles for comparison and Bill told me that in his opinion, the tapes sounded brighter because someone had boosted the high range, whereas the discs sounded like someone had done a bad "remastering" job on them. However, as Hanno got his discs from Jeff Tiedrich who says the discs were made from cassette masters found in Betty's famous storage locker, that cannot possibly be the case. Anyway, Bill proceeded to brighten the sound of the discs using SoundForge, and collected some 3-4 other versions of the show meanwhile, for comparison. Hanno?s (tidied up) version turned out to be the best one he had and i in turn sent a copy of that to Glenn Gillis in the States, who is running a tree of the show on the CDead list right now. Glenn had yet another version of 4-11-72 to compare Bill?s remaster to and told me, Bill?s version sounded "MUCH better" than what he had had previously. in short: even if Bill is not suffiently satisfied to call this "remastered" or give it his "Just About Exactly Perfect Productions" label, this seems to be the best version in circulation now and thus merits another distribution :) Bill Giles remastering notes: "What do you do with an excellent concert that circulates digitally on muddy CD only and for which cassette copies, while superficially brighter, carry a lot of noise and distortion? Frustrating. I suspect the CD's lack of edge is the result of an uninspired noise reduction job [which makes the MC>D>CD lineage questionable]. I've simply tried to brighten it up by re-equalisation. I've also rebalanced the tracks (the right track was relatively overweight) and attenuated a few glitches. It ain't great, but it's definitely better. From the master disc, the opening notes of Big Boss Man are missing, and the start of Good Lovin' is an AUD patch; and there are some crackles, particularly in Brown-Eyed Women and Truckin', and a number of drop-outs and wobbles throughout the concert. I would not describe it as 'remastered' - just 'tidied up'. I guess linage should read: MR>??>CDR>Sound Forge 4.5>CDR"
matt and jennifer (4/5)	SHN / 2			View	12186	SBD
JoeC (4/0)	/ 3			View
Notes:	Looks Like Rain has Jerry on pedal steel.
kb panic (3/5)	/ 3		A	View		MP3
Notes:	Europe 72' Box Set
Gene Rider (3/0)	WMA / 3			View	12186
Notes:	SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD (?, see below) remastered by Bill Giles (http://www.ridethewind.btinternet.co.uk/Re-Masters.htm) sound is generally a bit muddy, some hiss Pigpen's voice is almost inaudible at times and sometimes distortion & pops from Keith's piano pick-up, the best & most complete version currently in circulation a lot of minor anomalies (mainly clicks) throughout discs 1 + 2 d3t03: tape warble @18:47-18:52, sounds like a master cassette flaw d1t06: very beginning is missing (a few seconds worth) Bill Giles remastering notes: "What do you do with an excellent concert that circulates digitally on muddy CD only and for which cassette copies, while superficially brighter, carry a lot of noise and distortion? Frustrating. I suspect the CD's lack of edge is the result of an uninspired noise reduction job [which makes the MC>D>CD lineage questionable]. I've simply tried to brighten it up by re-equalisation. I've also rebalanced the tracks (the right track was relatively overweight) and attenuated a few glitches. It ain't great, but it's definitely better. From the master disc, the opening notes of Big Boss Man are missing, and the start of Good Lovin' is an AUD patch; and there are some crackles, particularly in Brown-Eyed Women and Truckin', and a number of drop-outs and wobbles throughout the concert. I would not describe it as 'remastered' - just 'tidied up'. I guess linage should read: MR>??>CDR>Sound Forge 4.5>CDR"
Jeff Hyman (3/5)	cdr / 3		A	View	94377	sbd
Bill d'Angelo (3/5)	CDR / 3			View		SBD>MC>D>CD>SHN
Dave Heenan (3/0)	SHN / 2			View	12186	SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD
Dave Heenan (3/0)	FLAC / 2			View	94377	SBD Lineage: MR(recorded by Rex Jackson)>R(JG)>R(WB)>CD
john zicconi (3/5)	CDR / 3		SBD	View		SBD
Carl (3/0)	CD-R / 3			View	12186	remastered by Bill Giles - source is SBD MC>D>CD>SoundForge>CD
Scott Gesler (3/5)	CD / 3	A-	A-	View
Notes:	SBD
joe m (3/5)	FLAC / 1			View	94377
Notes:	DVD#209
Michael (3/0)	FLAC / 2			View	94377
Albix (3/4.7)	shn / 2			View	4640	SBD > MC > D > CD > SHN
Notes:	Note: tracks d1t01, d2t01 and d3t01 fail the md5 check. shnid=4640 white binder
Albix (3/4.7)	flac / 2			View	94377	SBD Lineage: MR>R(JG)>R(WB)>CD
Notes:	shnid=94377
cbass (3/5)	/ 0			View	12186
cbass (3/5)	FLAC / 0			View	94377
cbass (3/5)	/ 0			View	4640
Richard Warren (3/5)	shn / 2			View	12186
Notes:	12186

User (active/rating)

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Show

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Details

DB Source

User Source

Chuck Gannon (4/5)

SHN / 2


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