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Grateful Dead 08/27/72
Old Renaissance Faire Grounds, Veneta, OR
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Set I
Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha
Set II
Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told
Set III
Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night
Comment
Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS
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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
(2199) View Source    View Archive
SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy
(3328) View Source    View Archive
SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
(4682) View Source    View Archive
SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
(8045) View Source    View Archive
SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes
(16582) View Source    View Archive
SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed
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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)
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User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Matt Jones (3/4.9) CDR / 3 A+ A+ View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03
Notes:
Alex Shapiro (3/5) CDR / 3 View 4682 SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Alex Shapiro (3/5) CDR / 3 View 3328 SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR
Up A Creek (3/0) CDR / 3 A A View   SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR
Notes: Leigh Orf cleaned version. Not Betty Board source.
courtney (3/5) 3CD+1DVD / 4 A+ A View  
Notes: this show is a must for any any deadhead very cool !
courtney (3/5) DVD / 2 A+ A+ View   Unknown Standalone source > DVD Decrypter > Sony Vega 7.0 (original bitrate was 9600 with...
Tom Conklin (3/0) DVD / 2 View   "Sunshine Daydream"
Jeepster (3/0) cdr / 3 View 3328
Notes: SWEETEST version of Playin! Dark Star will take your feeble little mind places it's never been. Top 5 for complete near perfect shows. One of the best 2nd sets (and 3rd!) ever.
Jeepster (3/0) cd / 3 View 16582
Notes: The Dank Seed.
Jeepster (3/0) VCD / 2 View  
Notes: Sunshine Daydream - This show jumps like a Willys in four-wheel drive!
Erik (3/5) SHN / 3 A A View 4682 SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN; see info file for details,...
Notes: SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes;
1SwtWld (3/5) SHN / 2 View  
Scott (3/0) dvd / 1 A View  
Notes: Pro shot SSDD Sunshinedaydream!!
Michael Urban (3/5) cdr-shn / 2 View 152
Notes: SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating
Michael Urban (3/5) cdr-shn / 2 View 3328
Notes: SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not
Michael Urban (3/5) cdr-shn / 2 View  
Notes: SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC. These shns are re-extractions of the KPFA audio tree discs. The version of 8-27-72 is the Gans version circulated in the tree.
Michael Urban (3/5) cdr-shn / 2 View 4682
Notes: SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds
Michael Urban (3/5) cdr-shn / 2 View  
Notes: SBD > 4-track RTR > PCM via analog inputs > (Set III only: extra PCM conversion using analog inputs) > D > SSSB; other artist(s): NRPS; billed as "The Springfield Creamery Benefit" This is Jay Serafin's version.
ediblegod (3/5) cdr / 3 View   sbd
Dave Swenson (3/0) SHN / 2 View 2199
Notes: Lineage: SBD > reel > DAT > CDR
Joey (3/5) .shn / 2 A+ View   Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN
Notes: Grateful Dead 08/27/72 Old Renaissance Fairground, Veneta OR Source: SBD Lineage: Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens Thanks to Jeff Tiedrich and David Hollister for this fine copy! Extraction and shortening by G.S. Hamilton http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=2199 Disc 1 Set 1 1. Stage Announcements 5:58 2. The Promised Land 3:37 3. Sugaree 9:16 4. Me And My Uncle 3:27 5. Deal 6:00 6. Black Throated Wind 9:25 7. China Cat Sunflower 7:55 8. I Know You Rider 8:30 9. Mexicali Blues 4:25 10. Bertha 5:52 Total time: 64:30 Disc 2 Set 2 1. Stage Announcements 2:40 2. Playing In The Band 21:21 3. He's Gone 12:08 4. Jack Straw 6:00 5. Bird Song 13:37 6. Greatest Story Ever Told 5:56 Total time: 61:45 Disc 3 Set 3 1. Dark Star > 31:42 2. El Paso 4:49 3. Sing Me Back Home 13:02 4. Sugar Magnolia 11:42 Encores: 5. Casey Jones 7:00 6. One More Saturday Night 4:37 7. Stage Announcements 3:00 Total time: 75:55 David Hollister's comments: Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens. Disc 3 is an 80 minute disc, but it can fit on a 74 if you want to leave off the post-show chatter. I cleaned up pops during Dark Star with SF pencil tool. There are still a couple of very small spots of what sounds like static during Dark Star, usually only in one channel. I didn't feel they were worth bothering with. Small clicks at 25:34, 26:35 in Dark Star. Lots of small zits and stuff all over the place, presumably from the PCM tape.
Joey (3/5) flac / 2 View   SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes: Original text: The newest and greatest version (ha), seeded 10/7/01. This seed combines the 16-track master reel (so-called "dank") source with the between-song banter that was edited out of it. The splices should be, with one or two exceptions, inaudible. Full text file to follow. pb ([email protected]) Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN Here's the dank text file: Grateful Dead August 27, 1972 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds Veneta, OR Benefit for Springfield Creamery Disc 1 47:55 -Set I- 1. Promised Land 03:06 2. Sugaree 07:13 3. Me & My Uncle 03:04 4. Deal 04:41 5. Black Throated Wind 06:31 6. China Cat Sunflower> 07:56 7. I Know You Rider 06:02 8. Mexicali Blues 03:35 9. Bertha 05:44 Disc 2 50:18 -Set II- 1. Playin 18:40 2. He's Gone 08:49 3. Jack Straw 04:59 4. Bird Song 12:19 5. Greatest Story 05:33 Disc 3 65:57 -Set III- 1. Dark Star> 31:26 2. El Paso 04:39 3. Sing Me Back Home 10:29 4. Sugar Magnolia 08:3 3 5. E1: Casey Jones 06:08 6. E2: Saturday Night 04:4 1 Source: SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f (see error logs below) WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b The songs from the reels were originally edited down to DAT very tightly, almost no banter is present in this version. Known Flaws: the first few notes of Sugar Magnolia were missing and were patched in from the circulating Gans CD source. The following spots were edited using pencil tool in Soundforge (small bits of analog static removed): d1t1, 2:18 - left channel click - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t1, 2:20-2:23 - left channel static - smoothed, still slightly audible d1t06, 2:12 - pop - fixed d2t01, 14:28 - right channel crackle - fixed d2t05, 3:37 - right channel click - fixed d2t05, 4:13 right channel click - fixed d2t05, 04:18 - right channel static - smoothed, still audible d2t05, 04:45 - right channel static - fixed d2t05, 04:00-05:00 - some other static, smoothed, but still audible d2t05, 5:05 - right channel click- still slightly audible d3t01, 0:28 - two right channel clicks - fixed d3t01, 0:38 - right channel click - fixed d3t01, 8:06, 8:11 - right channel crackles - fixed d3t01, 26:29 - right channel click - fixed There are a few other minor analog anomalies that were left alone: d1t01, 2:02 click in right channel d1t01, 2:26 slight pop d1t07, 3:48 click d2t01, 6:00 faint click d2t04, 10:12 pop d2t05, 3:36 click d2t05, 3:42 click d3t01, 28:24 click d3t04, 5:10-7:50 intermittent analog buzzing in right channel There's probably some more to be found, however, all are quite minor Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton, 6/2001 DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch, 6/2001 ------------------------ DAT transfer error logs: ------------------------ each of the two source dats were extracted twice and compared using EAC's wav compare feature DAT1: wav 1: 117 missing samples 0:27:21.540 wav 2: 0:00:00.003 longer (wav 2 used for this shn archive, extraneous samples at 27:21.540 deleted, not audible) DAT2: wav 1: 363 missing samples 0:58:45.741 wav 2: 363 missing samples 0:30:15.591 (wav 1 used for this shn archive, questionable spot at 58:45 was checked, no audible errors exist) ----------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ *Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03* and posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/gd72-08-27/ Listening test performed by *5* danksters positive criteria met: Tracking- OK Seamless and complete- OK Lineage listed- OK negative criteria met: DAE- NO Resampled- NO Diginoise- NO Shntool fix information: Grateful Dead August 27, 1972 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds Veneta, OR This source is etree shnid=16582. The original shorten files were converted to flac and all sector boundary errors were fixed using shntool. The fix was performed by uh_clem on December 10, 2004. Shntool output: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 7:51.52 83206748 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t01-fixed.flac 9:17.62 98400668 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t02-fixed.flac 3:28.28 36757100 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t03-fixed.flac 4:41.10 49591964 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t04-fixed.flac 7:11.12 76056668 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t05-fixed.flac 7:56.30 84037004 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t06-fixed.flac 7:10.42 75950828 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t07-fixed.flac 3:46.03 39873500 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t08-fixed.flac 5:55.22 62673788 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t09-fixed.flac 21:05.19 223190732 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t01-fixed.flac 9:20.42 98882828 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t02-fixed.flac 5:06.19 54023132 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t03-fixed.flac 13:02.04 137954252 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t04-fixed.flac 5:30.11 58237916 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t05-fixed.flac 32:20.11 342241916 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t01-fixed.flac 4:41.48 49681340 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t02-fixed.flac 11:16.59 119385212 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t03-fixed.flac 10:45.64 113928572 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t04-fixed.flac 6:13.65 65950124 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t05-fixed.flac 11:49.66 125222876 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t06-fixed.flac 188:30.69 1902.82 MB (totals for 20 files, 0.4876 overall compression ratio) Shntool Output prior to fixing: length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 7:51.52 83206968 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t01.shn 9:17.62 98400424 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t02.shn 3:28.28 36757628 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t03.shn 4:41.10 49591964 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t04.shn 7:11.11 76055236 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t05.shn 7:56.30 84037004 --- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t06.shn 7:10.43 75952860 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t07.shn 3:46.03 39872728 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t08.shn 5:55.21 62672472 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d1t09.shn 21:05.19 223189732 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t01.shn 9:20.42 98883732 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t02.shn 5:06.19 54024224 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t03.shn 13:02.04 137953708 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t04.shn 5:30.10 58236300 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d2t05.shn 32:20.11 342242712 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t01.shn 4:41.48 49681168 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t02.shn 11:16.59 119384996 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t03.shn 10:45.64 113927752 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t04.shn 6:13.65 65950676 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t05.shn 11:49.65 125220260 -b- -- ---xx gd72-08-27d3t06.shn 188:30.67 1902.81 MB (totals for 20 files, 0.5395 overall compression ratio) FLAC Fingerprint: gd72-08-27d1t01-fixed.flac:221c27f87011b52759190aa046bfb519 gd72-08-27d1t02-fixed.flac:14c235f9ea9381f3464c9b839ba3fc4b gd72-08-27d1t03-fixed.flac:482c69868a9375d428323e3c6b30514a gd72-08-27d1t04-fixed.flac:00fd14a2ac1291bb440957e0094c01b5 gd72-08-27d1t05-fixed.flac:14baecf833ca1caca850b0ccb0940e07 gd72-08-27d1t06-fixed.flac:d08b91dc2f3a1f05bad581f2cbe1d147 gd72-08-27d1t07-fixed.flac:1bda02881cccf9b03429733e4fcbad66 gd72-08-27d1t08-fixed.flac:f75ed519a54eb8327179e68de1a67190 gd72-08-27d1t09-fixed.flac:8007c851805526ab9d17746f7bf7f802 gd72-08-27d2t01-fixed.flac:020772987d06e146d7d08c4325b506fa gd72-08-27d2t02-fixed.flac:2dbbfcad80cdfea63212c410b548ecf1 gd72-08-27d2t03-fixed.flac:2e8951bae2576a92ceff7e8856163cbc gd72-08-27d2t04-fixed.flac:c9fb64b8c936f9902e9a9857cf6a5a2a gd72-08-27d2t05-fixed.flac:d0d8b149c036dedcfd2ff4849e40c6f9 gd72-08-27d3t01-fixed.flac:5ec0bc8b2ed3d8b0a42f87cd950ebda6 gd72-08-27d3t02-fixed.flac:592583fd53afc4baa68f585dd6880a25 gd72-08-27d3t03-fixed.flac:9acea94fd912bb42447762ff603825d5 gd72-08-27d3t04-fixed.flac:319cf2a6b57afd72f87539f4f3873ac5 gd72-08-27d3t05-fixed.flac:ae41f996d328b29539ddf04fd260906c gd72-08-27d3t06-fixed.flac:4e52c8b5e6d1f6ae1b047ba8895710f4
Ian Lockyer (3/0) CDR / 3 View  
Ian Lockyer (3/0) SHN / 2 View   SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->
Notes: David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: This is *not* the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently. * First 57 seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Gans) @ At about 6:50 two seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Orf) $ Piano distortion starting at 5:05 is on original reel (somewhat cleaned up by Orf)
Jonathan Miller (3/0) shn / 2 View 16582 SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs...
Notes: 927 Mb
Greg Deutcher (3/2) SHN / 2 View  
Chris Fraher (3/5) CD-R / 3 View  
Derek (3/5) CDR / 3 A A View   SBD
Will Rice (3/0) SHN / 2 A A View   (SET I and II) SBD > Re-Mixed Master RTR > DAT > SSSB(SET III) SBD > Re-Mixed Master...
Notes: EQ were performed using 100% digital-only processing (32-bit/196 kHz data stream) at Serafin Station Studio BJohn "Jay" Serafin,
shane (3/2) SHN / 2 View   SBD