Grateful Dead 08/27/1972

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Set I

Promised Land, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Mexicali Blues, Bertha

Set II

Playin' In The Band, He's Gone, Jack Straw, Bird Song, Greatest Story Ever Told

Set III

Dark Star-> El Paso, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones, One More Saturday Night

Comment

Springfield Creamery benefit - "Field Trip" - not 08-28-72 - Other artist(s): NRPS

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SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN; via S. Kaplan, G. Hamilton; known flaws: sound system disortion/buzziness at places; d1t7 d/o @ 11:14; d2t6 discontinuity @ 3:36, static @ 5:07; note least-flawed of several versions assayed (no clicks/pops in Dark Star); 12/00 update: an upgrade version is now circulating

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SBD Master Betty reel > PCM > DAT > ZA2 > CD > EAC > SHN; Set 3 has unknown # of PCM gens; via Jeff Tiedrich (DAT seed), David Hollister (transfer> CD), G.S. Hamilton (EAC> SHN); see info file for comments; d3 tracked for 80 min; upgrade relative to previously etreed copy

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SBD-> two-track MR-> DAT-> Sonic Solutions-> CDR-> EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents); stemming from David Gans seed, via Adam Jerugim to Leigh Orf, who fixed up (see details in info file); d3 trackd for 80 min; note previous shn sets have been Betty Board sourced- this is not

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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; see info file for details, fixes and flaw notes; note most banter edited out; Reel>DAT transfer by Dick Latvala; DAT clone supplied by Rob Eaton; DAT>SHN by Jamie Lutch; QC courtesy dankseeds

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SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM> (PCM) > D > SSSB; via Jay Serafin to gdlive; see info file for extensive notes

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SBD> 16 Track Master Reels> [email protected]> DAT> DAT> WAV> SHN; Banter between songs from the two-track master reels: S:MR> DAT> SS> CD> EAC> SHN; dankseed

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Bertha Remaster of the Braverman/Dank 16 track source. SBD>>MR>>DAT>>SS>>CDA>>EAC>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A (Between songs from the two-track master reels)

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Eric Richbourg (0/0)	shn / 2			View	2199
Eric Richbourg (0/0)	flac / 2			View	16582
Duane Currey (0/5)	shn / 3	A	A	View	8045	see shn link
Josh (0/0)	SHN / 0			View	21619
wayne sweigart (0/0)	/ 0			View	21619
Andy (0/5)	SHN / 2	A+		View	3328	SBD > two-track MR > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CDR > EAC > SHN (also see more...
Notes:	Lineage: SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)-> Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift of +19 cents) David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR). Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC'd and uploaded it to orf.cx. Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff). Note: This is not the Betty Board source which has circulated before. This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently. Update, as of 3/30/01- There was originally 1 MD5 file for this show, so I decided to create an individual MD5 file for each disc. This does NOT affect the verification process, nor does it reduce accuracy to original SHN files. -Andy Lepley ([email protected]) General Comments: In all the circulating copies of this show I've heard, including this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member's instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them) with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart enough to find and fix these particular pops. I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin'. I determined by using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil's A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by "tuning" (speeding up) the new source, everything sounds "right" and the transition from the Betty source into this source in Playin' no longer had that audible speed slowdown. I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except the first 57 seconds of Playin') which effectively "played the original reel a little faster". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were shorter). I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix. Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds "clearer"; there is a better defined high end which leads to a less "veiled" sound than the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds more "veiled" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it's hiss only from the original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating.
Andy (0/5)	SHN / 2			View	8045	SBD > 4-TRACK RTR (SSSB)
Notes:	Text file: -----------GRATEFUL DEAD "The Springfield Creamery Benefit" Old Renaissance Fairgrounds Veneta, OR I / II / III LINEAGE SET I / II: SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM > D > SSSB LINEAGE SET III: SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM > PCM > D > SSSB SSSB Audio Rating: AR-2 LINEAGE: SBD > 4-track RTR > PCM via analog inputs > (Set III only: extra PCM conversion using analog inputs) > D > SSSB; other artist(s): NRPS; billed as "The Springfield Creamery Benefit"; "Casey Jones", "One More Saturday Night" are not encores, simply the end of the show (some databases state these 3 songs "may be encores"); any/all editing, fades, NR, hiss elimination, phase shifting/"time smear" correction, jitter elimination, and +/-2 dB max. EQ were performed using 100% digital-only processing (32-bit/196 kHz data stream) at Serafin Station Studio B [this show was released in 10/01] JAY'S PERSONAL COMMENTS: I have to say this was probably one of the most difficult shows I ever had to work on... EVER! Many reasons for this are able to be disclosed (which they will be), but some are verified confidential information which came from my Marin County source who sent me the best possible masters for this show. Set I and II: Due to the tape reels being plastic, rather than the usual metal type, when the tapes were archived to PCM, there were static problems which occurred due to the ambient electrical charges which occur when tape reels are fast forwarded and fast rewound to "loosen up" the tape. The static discharged through the tape layers, rather than through the metal reels, so the audio wound up becoming filled with little "pops, ticks, and crackles" throughout a lot of the layers of tape. To eliminate these very annoying (and very audible!) noises, I had to MANUALLY do and edit them out. Close to 3,000 total edits were performed for Set I and almost 2,500 edits for this same problem for Set II. This is why it took close to 8 weeks of work to get this show completed. Of course, I was working on other shows as well, but 90% of the time spent on this wonderful show was on literally looking at every second of audio, scrolling slowly forward, to find these problems. It would have been "nicer" if the static pops were almost identical in their waveform, as I could have had the editing software find them for me, and I would just edit them out. But, they varied to much in the way they appeared in the audio, that there was no "automatic" way to find these little buggers. I spent close to 120 hours on finding these items, but then I was done, I only had to "eliminate" less than 45 total seconds from the entire show, due to my not being able to correct the static noise by simply removing the offending part of the sample (each static "pop" was approximately 0.00025 seconds in length, so just eliminating the deformed part of the waveform too very little time away from the entire show), but having to eliminate an entire sample or part of a waveform (about 0.001 seconds in length). But the elimination of these annoying parts did not affect the way the end result audio sounds. There's no "stuttering" or noticeable missing audio. By performing the editing the way I did, it eliminated all of this "unwanted perverting" of the audio. There are only a few very minor pops left, which could not be eliminated without affecting the audio as a whole, so I simply lowered the volume of the offending noise, so it's just barely perceptible. With the usual amount of original RTR analog tape hiss from the decks being used at the slow speed, plus the analog transfer of the RTR > PCM (they did not do it in the digital domain for reasons I cannot divulge here), there was a fair amount of hiss throughout Sets I and II. I was able to reduce the amount by more than 85%, but there is still a very slight amount of hiss left, which is only noticeable during the between-song lulls, tunings, and the stage announcement, and ONLY if you have your audio cranked up REALLY HIGH! The amount of hiss I was able to remove, without affecting the audio, was so "massive", there were parts of the between song lulls where the band members were talking amongst themselves, etc., and that could not be heard at all, due to the original hiss. Now, you are able to hear EVERYTHING that was originally fed into the RTR decks! Set III: This came from a totally different set of archive tapes, which had more underlying hiss to them (due to the extra PCM transfer in the lineage), but the overall audio was better them most of the versions out there. So, even more noise reduction using different techniques, was used, and the result was close (and to a slight degree, even better than the Set I/II reduction!). There was a point, beginning with "Sing Me Back Home", where you could hear that someone did some adjustment to the RTR deck, and this hiss rose dramatically from that point to the end of the show. So, not only was I faced with a "different" type of hiss, I had to now "match" the EQ curve of the audio to anything prior to that song! It was a lot of work, but it was also a lot of fun, as this was one of my most challenging releases of a show I had ever attempted. Overall, there is a LOT more total show audio than in almost all of the versions in circulation. Close to 10 minutes of "additional material" is in this release. To perform all of the special static noise, I had to revert to converting the show from it's usual 16-bit/48.0 kHz data rate to the highest rates my software, sound card, and digital mixer can handle, which is 32-bit / 192 kHz sampling rate! This is better than DVD's audio, which is 24-bit/96 kHz sampling. But I needed to see more of the waveform, and to be able to manipulate the waveforms in such a precise manner. When I "down-converted" the audio to the standard for CD's, which is 16-bit / 44.1 kHz, I was able to move the quantization noise up into the 20 kHz range, which is well past the point if human hearing. Also, since this show contained very little in the way of high levels of audio above 14 kHz, it did not affect the "harmonics" and the subtle nuances which a lot of people would hear up in the 18-20 kHz audio range with a lot of music. So, everyone will hear all of the audio just as is was recorded onto the RTR decks, only with a much cleaner sound. I had to perform very little in the way of "trimming" of the show's audio for the reel flips and the PCM tape changes. From my editing notes, I was able to remove just under 50 total seconds of total show audio to perform the necessary crossfades. This is the best I could do with the masters I received, and I hope that everyone is happy with the results. I certainly was, and I am never totally happy with my "final release" versions of any show I've ever worked on! Uploaded exclusively to GDLive.com by: John "Jay" Serafin, owner/audio engineer @ Serafin Station Studio B "Making Kindness Dubs For Everyone!" No Profits Or Copyright Infringements EVER! Web Info: http://members.home.com/kinddubs E-Mail: [email protected] --------------
Haaward (0/0)	dvd-r / 1			View
hippie91069DVD (0/0)	DVD / 1		A	View		PRO SHOT/ SBD
Notes:	SUNSHINE DAYDREAM
slaw82 (0/0)	/ 0	A+	A	View	16582
ericallen (0/0)	/ 0			View
Todd Parker (0/0)	shn / 3		A-	View
Notes:	sbd
Bob Abrams (0/5)	/ 0			View	8045
Bob Abrams (0/5)	/ 0			View	16582
Bob Abrams (0/5)	/ 0			View	2199
Bob Abrams (0/5)	/ 0			View
Bob Abrams (0/5)	/ 0			View	21619
Bob Abrams (0/5)	/ 0			View	3328
Bob Abrams (0/5)	SHN / 2			View	4682
James (0/0)	/ 0			View	16582
datdorksdvdlist (0/0)	DVD / 1			View		2nd gen vhs + bertha source audio
outpostnorth (0/4)	DVD / 1			View
Mark Perry (0/5)	SHN / 2	A		View		SBD > MR > DAT > SSSB
Notes:	LINEAGE SET I / II: SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM > D > SSSB LINEAGE SET III: SBD > 4-TRACK RTR @ 7.5 i.p.s. > PCM > PCM > D > SSSB SSSB Audio Rating: AR-2
Mark Perry (0/5)	SHN / 2			View		SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN
Notes:	SBD>16 Track Master Reels>[email protected]>DAT>DAT>WAV>SHN DAT>WAV via Sony SDT-9000 DDS drive using VDAT 0.6f (see error logs below) WAV was edited in Soundforge 4.0 (crossfading of reel cuts between songs, no music was disturbed except for Sugar Magnolia) WAV>SHN via CDWAV 1.53>MKW 0.97b Dankseed Certification received 01-07-03
mgiaco (0/0)	/ 0			View
darkstar1964 (0/0)	/ 0			View	21619
Notes:	gd72-08-27.sbd.bertha-ashley.21619.sbeok.shnf
darkstar1964 (0/0)	/ 0			View	16582
Notes:	gd72-08-27.sbd.fix.braverman.16582.sbeok.flac16
darkstar1964 (0/0)	/ 0			View	3328
Notes:	gd72-08-27.sbd.gans-jerugim-orf.3328.shnf
Ernie Dodd (0/5)	shn / 2			View	152	SBD MR> DAT> CDR> EAC> SHN
Notes:	Discs aud-3
Ernie Dodd (0/5)	shn / 2			View	3328	SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC-> Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using...
Notes:	discs aud-3 Leigh Orf

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