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Grateful Dead 11/04/77
Cotterell Gym, Colgate University, Hamilton, NY
Set I
Bertha-> Good Lovin', Brown Eyed Women, Cassidy, It Must Have Been The Roses, Sunrise, Minglewood Blues, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Let It Grow
Set II
Samson & Delilah-> Cold Rain & Snow, Playin' In The Band-> Eyes Of The World-> Estimated Prophet-> The Other One-> Drums-> Iko Iko-> Stella Blue-> Playin' In The Band, E: Johnny B. Goode
Set III

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SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R; noted at gdlive (also to abgd?); upgrade in circulation
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SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R; material from previous shn set, plus patched intro from AUD (see notes in info file); seeded by Peter Braverman
(15208) View Source    View Archive
MAC (Taped by Jerry Moore, Sony ECM 33Ps* [directly behind the soundboard] > Sony TC-158** [Dolby B, Maxell UDXLIIC90s]) > Tascam 112 MK-II playback > HHB 800 master CD > HP 9350i extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > editing using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking (CD Wave v1.6) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1). A > D by John Steinthal, CD > SHN by Joe Jupille and Noah Weiner.
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flac 16; SBD/AUD Matrix of 2 previously circulated seeds (SBD - shn ID #2595 & AUD - shn ID #15208); prepared by Chris Chappell
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flac16; Recorded by Alan Zimmerman Master Audience Cassette; Sony Stereo Mic> Sony TC-158 (Maxell UD XLII-90s) Transfer and FLAC encoding by David Minches: Master played back on Nakamichi Dragon > ART DI/O > Digital Audio Labs Card Deluxe soundcard > Cool Edit 2000 > flac encoding > FLAC
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flac16; SBD Source ID 3739 Adjusted amplitudes and equalization with Cool Edit 2000; shn > wav > flac
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flac16; This source is a DAE of the GDLive material listed as source ID 2595; Source/Lineage: SBD Master > DAT > dl gd server > CD-R (15+ yrs) > xACT 2.41 (ffp’s, sector boundaries) > Flac 6
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flac24; Source: Audience Master Reel > Reel - Provided by Will Boswell; Transfer: Reel > Technics RS1506 > Tascam DA3000 (1 bit DSD) > dB poweramp > wav 24/96 - Transferred by Matt Smith; Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX6 Advanced > iZotope 5 Advanced > CD Wave > TLH > Flac 24; edited and mastered SIRMick February 2018
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flac16; Source: Audience Master Reel > Reel - Provided by Will Boswell; Transfer: Reel > Technics RS1506 > Tascam DA3000 (1 bit DSD) > dB poweramp > wav 24/96 - Transferred by Matt Smith; Lineage: wav 24/96 > iZotope RX6 Advanced > iZotope 5 Advanced > CD Wave > TLH > Flac 24; edited and mastered SIRMick February 2018
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flac16; Recording Info: Jerry Moore's Master Audience Cassettes; Sony ECM-33P mics > Sony TC-158SD (Maxell UD-XLII with dolby B) > PCM; Transfer Info: PCM (Sony SL-10)> Sony PCM-601ESD > Behringer Ultramatch Pro > Tascam DA-3000 (wav 16-bit/44.1k)> Adobe Audition 3.0 > TLH flac16
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Collectors With This Show
User (active/rating) Media / # Show Sound Details DB Source User Source
Ken Berry (3/5) SHN / 2 View 2595
Robbie Kellman (3/5) 3 CDR / 3 View  
The Genius (3/0) SHN / 2 View 2595 SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R
brentf (3/0) shn / 2 View 15208
Dan Stone (3/0) CDR / 3 View   Sick Bits Vol. 5 Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix)
CARL (3/3.7) / 1 View 29091
Notes: sick bits #5
steve (3/5) CDR / 3 View 29091
Kevin Weaver (3/5) / 3 View  
Brad (3/5) shn / 2 View  
Gibson_SG (3/0) FLAC / 0 View 15208
Shawn (3/0) FLAC / 0 B View 29091 SBD/AUD Matrix of 2 previously circulated seeds
Notes: MTX
keith martin (3/0) / 3 View  
Notes: *The NEW track (d2T01) contains a patch for the complete famous "Jones Gang" introduction to 11/4/77. This has been patched to contain the complete intro from a quite good audience tape (AUD: MR> R> C> C). The crowd is prominent, but the AUD is fun because they're absolutely nuts. In fact, the whole show circulates in AUD and it's fantastic.
Matt Jones (3/4.9) CDR / 3 A View   SBD>MR>DAT>CD>SHN>CDR
Notes: Filler from Atlanta 12/12/73 soundcheck (no source): 6. Tuning/Shake It Up 7. Blue Suede Shoes 8. Tuning 9. Peggy-o 10. Cumberland 11. Thirty Days
Alex Shapiro (3/5) CDR / 3 View   AUD
Charlie Connor (3/0) shn / 2 View 15208
Notes: aud.moore.jupille-weiner.15208.shntool.ok
Charlie Connor (3/0) shn / 3 View 2595
Notes: sbd.unknown.2595.shntool.ok
Tom Conklin (3/0) CDR / 3 View   Matrix
Jeepster (3/0) cdr / 3 View 2595
Michael Urban (3/5) cdr-shn / 2 View 2595
Notes: SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R; noted at gdlive (also to abgd?)
Joey (3/5) flac / 2 A View   Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix); SBD: MR > DAT > CD-R (shn ID #2595); AUD: MAC: Sony ECM 33Ps >...
Notes: Grateful Dead Cotterell Gym, Reid Athletic Center, Colgate University Hamilton, NY 11-4-77 Sick Bits Vol. 5 Source: Matrix: (SBD/AUD mix) SBD: MR > DAT > CD-R (shn ID #2595) AUD: MAC: Sony ECM 33Ps > Sony TC-158 > CDR (shn ID #15208) Taped by Jerry Moore [complete text files for each source appended at end] Transfer/Editing: Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC Frontend > FLAC 16 (level 8) Matrixed by Chris Chappell [email protected] 4/23/05 Set I: d1t01 - Bertha -> [7:52] d1t02 - Good Lovin' [6:32] d1t03 - Brown-Eyed Women [6:07] d1t04 - Cassidy [5:19] d1t05 - It Must Have Been the Roses [7:31] d1t06 - Sunrise [4:34] d1t07 - New Minglewood Blues [5:51] d1t08 - Dupree's Diamond Blues [6:25] d1t09 - Let It Grow [14:11] Set II: d2t01 - "Meet The Jones Gang" [2:36] d2t02 - Samson & Delilah -> [7:22] d2t03 - Cold Rain & Snow [8:30] d2t04 - Playing in the Band -> [12:52] d2t05 - Eyes of the World -> [12:50] d2t06 - Estimated Prophet -> [11:40] d2t07 - The Other One ->[4:57] d3t01 - Drums -> [3:17] d3t02 - Iko Iko -> [10:05] d3t03 - Stella Blue ->[12:12] d3t04 - Playing in the Band [7:04] Encore: d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode [5:06] Total Times: Disc 1 [64:26] Disc 2 [60:50] Disc 3 [37:47] General Notes: Given the two sources available on the Llama, I decided to put the effort into editing a matrix of this weird and powerful night at Colgate U. during their homecoming weekend. The Jerry Moore FOB AUD is an excellent recording, and the SBD is balanced with everyone in the mix and Keith featured prominently throughout. The two sources work well together even though the venue was basically an ice rink with steel walls. Music Notes: This show, albeit sloppy at points, epitomizes the ability of the band to take chances musically, knowing they can falter at any moment but also collectively discover something around the bend never before seen or heard. This is also reflected in the setlist which has some noteworthy aspects. The Let It Grow to end the first set is both out there and raging, purporting what is to come next. Technical difficulties allow time for Phil to introduce the band as the "Jones Gang" at the start of the second set. This level of hilarity is indicative of the playing to follow: loose, strange, daring, and plain old rockin'. Cold Rain & Snow hadn't been played in over a year and is one of two played in '77. The Playin' in the Band is very exploratory building to a crescendo that segues into the gem of the show: Eyes of the World - simply the most rockin' I have heard. Then, to top it off, they transition into Estimated, with Jerry sort of happening upon the song unexpectedly. This is the first Eyes > Estimated, with another on 11-5-79 and then not again until the famous night at Nassau with Branford Marsalis on 3-29-90. A powerful one-verse only Other One follows, and then the 4th Iko-Iko ever comes out of Drums. The Stella Blue is very intimate with Jerry crooning at the end similar to certain nights in the 90's. A very long and jammed out Playin' reprise ends the set at a fervent level, and the Johnny B. Goode to follow doesn't let up. Editing Notes: - Pitch Both sources were pitched differently, the AUD being the sharpest, and the SBD being the flatest. I used the SBD as my master timeline and pitch referenced the AUD to it. The AUD on average had to be pitched down about .33 (33 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being 100 cents which is a semitone. I did not reference A=440 as I did not desire to pitch adjust the SBD. It is very close though to A=440. - Synch Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many edits to list). - Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio The only dynamic processing I employed was a little bit of limiting (Waves L2) to the SBD source. All I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD by using the ambience of the AUD. The result is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between 3:1 and 4:1. - Edits The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. Crossfades were used throughout for smooth transitions to a single source. SBD: d1t01 (0:00 - 0:03) - missing (crowd) d1t02 (6:10 - 6:30) - missing (crowd) d1t04 (4:49 - 4:53) - missing (crowd) d1t05 (7:23 - 7:25) - missing (crowd) d1t06 (4:10 - 4:23) - missing (crowd) d1t07 (5:19 - 5:30) - missing (crowd) d1t08 (6:09 - 6:13) - missing (crowd) d2t01 (0:30 - 1:08) - missing d2t03 (6:10 - 8:18) - missing (crowd) d3t01 (0:19 - 1:04) - missing d3t01 (0:04 - 0:25) - missing d3t05 (0:00 - 0:08) - missing (crowd) AUD: d1t03 (5:45 - 5:56) - missing (crowd) d1t08 (6:16 - 6:25) - missing (crowd) d2t01 (0:14 - 0:25) - missing (crowd) d2t05 (11:49 - 11:55) - missing (tape flip) d3t04 (0:00 - 0:03) - missing (tape flip) Note that all of the missing elements from the SBD and AUD sources are just crowd segments in the first set (the missing elements being covered by the crowd segments of the other source). For the second set, the only music missing from the SBD source is a small portion of Drums (covererd by the AUD); and from the AUD source, a 6 second portion from the end of Eyes, and 3 seconds during the transition into Playin' Reprise (all covered by the SBD). Thus, all of the music is intact, full coverage being achieved by the combination of both sources. Thanks to Jerry Moore for recording the AUD; thanks to John Steinthal for the A/D conversion, Joe Jupille and Noah Weiner for the shn conversion. Thanks to whoever for transfering and converting the SBD to shn. Thanks to Jonathan Aizen for uploading both sources to the Llama. Enjoy!!! -Chappy shntool length output for flac files (no sector boundary errors): length expanded size cdr WAVE problems filename 7:52.23 83314940 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t01.flac 6:32.60 69289964 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t02.flac 6:07.13 64769420 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t03.flac 5:19.53 56396300 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t04.flac 7:31.62 79702268 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t05.flac 4:34.31 48406556 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t06.flac 5:51.60 62057564 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t07.flac 6:25.10 67937564 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t08.flac 14:11.29 150184652 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd1t09.flac 2:36.04 27527852 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t01.flac 7:22.39 78060572 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t02.flac 8:30.29 90032252 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t03.flac 12:52.50 136298444 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t04.flac 12:50.57 135962108 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t05.flac 11:40.46 123588236 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t06.flac 4:57.04 52400252 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd2t07.flac 3:17.53 34875500 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd3t01.flac 10:05.72 106891388 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd3t02.flac 12:12.04 129134252 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd3t03.flac 7:04.46 74901836 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd3t04.flac 5:06.57 54112508 --- -- ---xx gd77-11-04mtxd3t05.flac 163:03.52 1725844428 B(totals for 21 files, 0.5275 overall compression ratio) SBD text file: Grateful Dead 11/04/77 Cotterrell Gym, Colgate University Hamilton, NY Source: SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R Disc 1 Set I: 1. Bertha > 2. Good Lovin' 3. Brown Eyed Women 4. Cassidy 5. It Must Have Been The Roses 6. Sunrise 7. Minglewood Blues 8. Dupree's Diamond Blues 9. Let It Grow Disc 2 Set II: 1. [stage chatter] 2. Samson & Delilah > 3. Cold Rain & Snow 4. Playin' In The Band > 5. Eyes Of The World > 6. Estimated Prophet > 7. The Other One Disc 3 Set II cont: 1. Drums > 2. Iko Iko > 3. Stella Blue > 4. Playin' In The Band Encore: 5. Johnny B. Goode Tracks 6 - 11: filler, 12/12/73 Omni Atlanta GA- Soundcheck AUD text file: Grateful Dead Cotterell Gym, Reid Athletic Center, Colgate University Hamilton, NY 11/4/77 MAC (Taped by Jerry Moore, Sony ECM 33Ps* [directly behind the soundboard] > Sony TC-158** [Dolby B, Maxell UDXLIIC90s]) > Tascam 112 MK-II playback > HHB 800 master CD > HP 9350i extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > editing using Sound Forge Studio 6.0 > tracking (CD Wave v1.6) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1). A > D by John Steinthal, CD > SHN by Joe Jupille and Noah Weiner. * possibly mounted on a pole ** possibly a TC-152, but probably not Disc One (12) 79:51 --Set I-- 01. Bertha [7:48] -> 02. Good Lovin' [6:30] 03. Brown-Eyed Women [5:53] 04. Cassidy [5:17] 05. It Must Have Been the Roses [7:26] 06. Sunrise [4:30] 07. New Minglewood Blues [5:28] 08. Dupree's Diamond Blues [6:29] 09. Let It Grow [13:54] --Set II-- 10. Crowd, Tuning & Banter [2:22] 11. Samson & Delilah [7:15] -> 12. Cold Rain & Snow [6:54] Disc Two (10) 79:47 --Set II (con't)-- 01. Crowd & Tuning [1:16] 02. Playing in the Band [12:49] -> 03. Eyes of// the World [12:#50] -> 04. Estimated Prophet [11:05] -> 05. The Other One [4:19] -> 06. Drums [3:33] -> 07. Iko Iko [10:30] -> 08. Stella Blue [11:31] -//> 09. Playing in the Band [6:51] --Encore-- 10. Johnny B. Goode [4:58] Notes: -d2t03 Eyes tape flip @ 11:36, almost nothing missing -d2t08-09 tape flip @ Stella > PITB transition, almost nothing missing A Moore's Masters Production.
Jonathan Miller (3/0) shn / 2 View 3739 SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R
Notes: 819 mb
Greg Deutcher (3/2) CD-R / 3 View  
Barry Smith (3/5) CDR / 3 View  
Notes: Featuring JULIUS P. JONES on the drums!!
Dave Whiting (3/5) CDR / 3 View   SBD:MR > DAT > CD-R
terry (3/0) cdr / 2 View  
KTK(birdsong) (3/5) CD-R / 3 A A View   SBD>Master(Betty Board)Reels>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN
E Moss (3/5) shn / 2 View 2595
E Moss (3/5) shn / 2 View 2595
E Moss (3/5) Flac / 2 View 29091
DiamondDave (3/5) CDR / 2 A A View   MAC (Taped by Jerry Moore, Sony ECM 33Ps* [directly behind