Grateful Dead 11/20/1978

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partial sets 1,2; revised source: MR> Cass Master> Lynxone 24 bit A/D converter> CD; seed via M. Mcleod; abupt cut in the end of Peggy-o; via P. Lucente to BUDD offer; upgrade in circulation

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complete set 2; AUD, precise source is unknown? (but thought to be Nak 300s), lineage? MAC> Reel> Reel (>Possible 3rd Reel Generation>) DATs> CDRs> EAC> SHN; via Rob Bertrando, Darrin Sacks

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complete set 2; Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN, with plenty of AUD patches; via Art Cohen?; upgrade in circulation

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Complete show. Set1: SBD> ??> CAS> CD> EAC> WAV; Set2: MSR> CAS> LYNXONE 24 Bit A/D Converter> CD> SHN> WAV; Set2 patches: MSC> CAS> DAT> CD-R> EAC> SHN> WAV; and MAC> R1> R2> (possibly R3>) DATs> CDRs> EAC> SHN> WAV. Set 2 derives from all three previous seeds. See info file for edits and flaws.

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flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell

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flac16; Recording Info: Source 1: SBD -> ? -> Cassette -> CD; Source 2: SBD -> Master Cassette -> Dat -> CD; Source 3: Nakamichi 300 -> Reels? -> Dat -> CD; Source 4: SBD -> Master Reel -> Cassette -> Dat -> CD; Transfer Info: CD -> Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC; All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller (Upgrade now in circulation)

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flac16; Recording Info: Source 1: SBD -> ? -> Cassette -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Source 2: SBD -> Master Cassette -> Dat -> CD Source 3: Nakamichi 300 -> Reels? -> Dat -> CD Source 4: SBD -> Master Reel -> Cassette -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC; All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller (This is an upgrade to source id 95244)

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flac16; Source: Unknown AUD (marked 4th gen) kindly provided by Seaweed1010. Transfer: XLIIS > Nakamichi DR-2 > Edirol FA-66 > Wavelab > CD-Wave > R8Brain > TLH > FLAC 1644 tagged. Transfer by Andrew F. December 2011

User (active/rating)	Media / #	Show	Sound	Details	DB Source	User Source
Jay (5/5)	CD / 1	2	A	View		SBD
garret (5/0)	Flac / 10	A	B-	View	32489	SBD (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN via Art...
Notes:	AUD - taper unknown, although Jack Warner confirms that it is not recorded by Hugh Barroll Transfer/Editing: Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8) General Notes: When the LlaMA had to pull the SBDs, one source I never got was the updated multiple SBD source (shnid=21727) that included the first set. Also mentioned is the Scott Jones AUD which runs through Jack-a-roe but is not listed in the db, and I have not seen either source circulate as of late (hint hint). If both sources surface I can then put together the first set as well, so for now this fileset is Sick Bits Vol. 16a and the first set would be Vol. 16b (I'm naming this fileset "a" hoping that there will be a "b"). This SBD is not that bad (fast though), but Jerry's tone gets very big when coupled with the added dimension of the AUD, which, all in all, is fairly decent for the time period. The SBD has some holes and finally cuts for good before the Playin' Reprise. The first set is about 76 mins. in length whereas this second set is about 65 mins. without an encore. One of the strangest second sets in terms of format, song selection, and plain old jamming - they essentially start with Space and play two distinctive jams (the second with Jerry using the Mutron) sandwiched around Drumz before finally settling into Jack A Roe, a 17 month rezi, 8th time played, only version of 1978, and only version which involves a segue. After they stop playing after the Jack A Roe (the only break in the set), Weir can clearly be heard on the SBD laying out the sequence: Playin > Shakedown > World To Give > Playin (it's unclear if he mentions Round & Round) - so this is very much planned, most likely because this is only the 5th Shakedown (no reprise) and the third and final If I Had The World To Give. Also, according to those that were there, Weir was ill for the early part of this set, so they opened with "jam". Thanks to whomever recorded the AUD, to Rob Bertrando for converting it to digital, and Darrin Sacks for encoding and seeding it. Since the SBD source is a mystery, thanks to all of you who had a hand in the lineage. Enjoy! Chappy ___________________________________________________________ LlaMA reviews: "The Grateful Dead - yep....that's right.... enough said..." "Take a careful look at that second-set list. Bobby got sick -- was missing at the start of the set (hence the start with a jam) appeared briefly to start Playing in the Band, vanished for the rest of the show, and then reappeared to finish the show. We pestered Healy the next night in Rochester: 'What happened last night?' 'Aw...Bobby was sick as a dawg, throwing up in the dressing room...'" "The whole [second] set just scorches. Has a very nice jazzy feel and a rare (and in my opinion, the best version of) "World to Give". Get this show!" "...favorite of mine since it was my first show..the beginning of the second set with jam-drums-jam is without weir. what the problem was i don't know but he doesn't join in until jackaroe. this venue was an excellent place to see them because it was on the lake downtown and small with great acoustics." "without a doubt the funkiest shakedown i have ever heard. very good sandwiched between playin & world to give. get it for the unusual 2nd set. the shakedown is for the ages. so funky it hurts." ___________________________________________________________ Editing Notes: - Pitch Both sources were not very close in pitch. The SBD had to be pitched down between 28 and 30 cents, while the AUD had to be pitched down only 1 to 2 cents until midway through Shakedwown where there is a tape flip and the rest of the set needed to be pitched down 17 cents. - Synch Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many edits to list). - Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio No EQ was applied to either of the two sources. I applied very sparingly Waves L2 (limiter) to the master 2 buss to keep things contained, the levels rarely hitting zero, thus the limiting is quite scarce. All I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD by using the ambience of the AUD. The result is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between 3:1 and 2:1. - Edits The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. SBD: s2t01 (0:00 - 2:20) - missing s2t01 (4:04 - 4:07) - missing s2t01>3 (9:41 - 0:13) - missing s2t04 (4:28 - 4:43) - missing (crowd) s2t08>10 (1:54 - 8:48) - missing AUD: s2t05 (0:00 - 0:05) - missing (crowd) s2t06 (7:08 - 7:14) - missing (tape flip) Full coverage is achieved (for this portion of the show) although it's AUD only for basically the last 3 tracks. SBD Source Notes: GRATEFUL DEAD Cleveland Music Hall Cleveland, OH 11-20-78 Set 2 Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN Audience patches abound 1. ja//m -> 9:48 2. drums -> 2:55 3. //jam-> 3:19 4. Jack A Roe 4:31 5. Playing in the Band -> 9:21 6. Shakedown Street -> 11:46 7. If I Had the World to Give -> 7:11 8. j//am -> 3:51 9. Playing in the Band -> 2:29 10. Around & Around 8:43 Total Time: 63:54 Caveat Emptor: This is an _AUDIENCE_ recording. Its precise source is unknown (but thought to be Nak 300s), its lineage is MAC>Reel>Reel(>Possible 3rd Reel Generation>) DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN. However, this is the best known COMPLETE source for this very interesting set. Thanks to Dr. Rob Bertrando for bringing this set into the digital realm. A sbd recording of this set does circulate, but is a bit hissy and, more importantly, is incomplete. Although you'll hear people looking for their seats and coats and might think the taper was surrounded by a bunch of folks on a field trip from the tuberculosis ward (;-)), this recording IS quite listenable and highlights a 1978 highpoint. Darrin ([email protected])
prn76 (5/4)	CDR / 1			View		SBD
Notes:	Set II only
john (5/5)	/ 2			View	21727	Complete show. Set1: SBD> ??> CAS> CD> EAC> WAV; Set2: MSR> CAS> LYNXONE 24...
barry bryson (5/4.3)	analog/90 / 1			View		aud set 2
MattMan_audio (5/0)	SHN / 1			View	12947	SBD
Notes:	set 2 only.
MattMan_audio (5/0)	SHN / 2			View	21727	SBD w/AUD patched
Andrew Murawa (5/5)	cd / 1		A-	View		Master SBD Cassette >C>DAT>CD-R.EAC>SHN
Bouwser (5/5)	CD-R / 1		A	View		SBD
Notes:	Mexicali, Roses, and Peggy-O->1st set Partial Second set
RamblinRose (5/5)	/ 3			View	21727	Set1: SBD> ??> CAS> CD> EAC> WAV; Set2: MSR> CAS> LYNXONE 24 Bit A/D...
Notes:	Circ Date: 01-14-04 ; Conley Knott Complete Show!! See shn link for complete lineage.
Michael Polites (5/0)	/ 0			View		from bt.etree.org
jfresh (5/4.3)	cdr / 1		A	View		sbd
Notes:	final "if i had the world to give" incomplete show, but i think that this is all in circulation ???
Reverend Alex Lagusis (5/0)	/ 3			View	32489
MeltN2aDream (5/5)	cdr / 1			View	32489	MAtrix
Notes:	set 1 Sick bits 16a
EricS (5/0)	CDR / 3			View		SBD#
Notes:	#Multiple Sources
Joey Browning (5/4.9)	cdr / 1		A	View
Notes:	from 1st gen ,starts at 2nd jam.switches to aud.during 2nd Playing
Gene Walters (5/4.7)	FLAC / 1			View	32489	Matrix: SBD/AUD mix - SET II Only
Notes:	Sources: SBD: (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN via Art Cohen? AUD: (shnid=302) MAC>Reel>Reel>?>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN (thought to be Nak 300s) A/D by Dr. Rob Bertrando and encoded by Darrin Sacks - taper unknown, although Jack Warner confirms that it is not recorded by Hugh Barroll Transfer/Editing: Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8) Matrixed by Chris Chappell ScarFireATliquidcityDOTcom 2/9/06
spencer jones (5/0)	cd / 1	a+	a+	View		sbd
Notes:	one disc compilation from sets 1 and 2
CTDEADHEAD (5/5)	SHN / 1			View	12947
Notes:	**Set 2 - MACRR
AoXoMoXoA (5/5)	SHN / 2			View	12947
Notes:	complete set 2; Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN
AoXoMoXoA (5/5)	SHN / 2			View	32489
Notes:	SBD/AUD mix
AoXoMoXoA (5/5)	SHN / 2			View	32489
Notes:	Matrix: SBD/AUD mix
Brian Witzke (5/0)	CD-R / 2			View
barney rubble (5/3.5)	cdr/shn / 1			View	12947	Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN
Notes:	Audience patches abound
Ryan Dunnion (5/0)	flac / 0			View	32489	Matrix
John Coulter (5/4)	CDR / 3			View		SBD (AUD patches, 4 total sources)
B J (5/0)	/ 0			View
ALAN J FINK (5/0)	/ 0			View	301
ALAN J FINK (5/0)	/ 0			View	302
ALAN J FINK (5/0)	/ 0			View	12947

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